Unfortunately for my self-esteem, I knew exactly what variation he was doing and exactly where he intended that darn queen of spades to go.
There isn't any documentation anywhere that backs that opinion? How did you conclude that is true?
Please don't say because some people hear a difference therefore they are able to minimize bias. 😱
You can not use the specific and currently challenged POV as your proof.
Subconcious can not be controlled like you guys believe, how do people even remotely think this can be true? 😕
The biggest bias is the self esteem...how will you feel with yourself
after spend a lot of money with an expensive magic cable and perceive it the same as a cheap pair of wire?... people will feel themselves alike fools...so...defense mechanisms enter in action and everything is transformed, and for sure you will "tune" your brain to perceive differences... and this is the illusion.
We tune all time long..also gaps are filled... very easy to do...listen a portable thing, those Ipods and things alike... almost no bass when you switch them on... wait some minutes and you gonna be listening bass... brain is inserting what was missing.
We are brilliant to fool ourselves...and we dennie the real thing, because to keep the "status quo", interest us.
Your bias possibilities are wonderfull SY...... but.......even this way they will be searching for counter arguments... this is because they are biased from the top of the head to the toe's nails.
The more clever and arrogant you are, the easier to fool yourself.
Curly is a salesman..this one cannot say..cannot accept, cannot realise cables does not sounds, or sounds the same...how he gonna face customers?..he gonna be smashed or they willl ask their money back... and this is not only bias..this is survival!
I know you have bills to pay folks...you have to run your business...but really boys, this is to force too much the reality, do you really think you can fool us with those stories?
People have runned cables and checked that, this is not difficult to make...so... those cable sounding theories colapses very easy.
regards,
Carlos
after spend a lot of money with an expensive magic cable and perceive it the same as a cheap pair of wire?... people will feel themselves alike fools...so...defense mechanisms enter in action and everything is transformed, and for sure you will "tune" your brain to perceive differences... and this is the illusion.
We tune all time long..also gaps are filled... very easy to do...listen a portable thing, those Ipods and things alike... almost no bass when you switch them on... wait some minutes and you gonna be listening bass... brain is inserting what was missing.
We are brilliant to fool ourselves...and we dennie the real thing, because to keep the "status quo", interest us.
Your bias possibilities are wonderfull SY...... but.......even this way they will be searching for counter arguments... this is because they are biased from the top of the head to the toe's nails.
The more clever and arrogant you are, the easier to fool yourself.
Curly is a salesman..this one cannot say..cannot accept, cannot realise cables does not sounds, or sounds the same...how he gonna face customers?..he gonna be smashed or they willl ask their money back... and this is not only bias..this is survival!
I know you have bills to pay folks...you have to run your business...but really boys, this is to force too much the reality, do you really think you can fool us with those stories?
People have runned cables and checked that, this is not difficult to make...so... those cable sounding theories colapses very easy.
regards,
Carlos
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Unfortunately I'm not able to check in entire database of relevant literature in under 25 minutes like SY is able to. Nor am I going to resort to mindless hectoring of anyone I don't perceive as being in my camp the way you do.
John
I think for once someone else has to buy SY a beer for bringing up apophenia. One of my favorite .50 words! So I owe you one
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Hey, I play golf (Im a decent 7 hdcp) I play in money games $200 to $500 in rounds sometimes. Betting can be crazy and fun 😀
I like Pro v1 balls because I think they fly further. I have seen the tests, I have done the test and yeah it can be proved they don't but heck I still love them and I feel more confident when hitting one.
The same goes for clubs, I buy a new set every other year (Drivers sometimes once a year). Not because they are better (I know they proven not to be) but I buy them because I FEEL BETTER.
The difference between someone like me and someone like Curly is that I know science and I respect what science as proven over the years, I respect those who spend endless hours doing PROPER research and publishing data so that we can learn from them. A guy like Curly disrepects the truth and all the work those individuals that he can not understand and because he has been brainwashed into believing things are a certain way.
I still will buy something if I LIKE something and $$$ and science is secondary to how I feel but Im honest to myself and to science about it.
I like Pro v1 balls because I think they fly further. I have seen the tests, I have done the test and yeah it can be proved they don't but heck I still love them and I feel more confident when hitting one.
The same goes for clubs, I buy a new set every other year (Drivers sometimes once a year). Not because they are better (I know they proven not to be) but I buy them because I FEEL BETTER.
The difference between someone like me and someone like Curly is that I know science and I respect what science as proven over the years, I respect those who spend endless hours doing PROPER research and publishing data so that we can learn from them. A guy like Curly disrepects the truth and all the work those individuals that he can not understand and because he has been brainwashed into believing things are a certain way.
I still will buy something if I LIKE something and $$$ and science is secondary to how I feel but Im honest to myself and to science about it.
I wonder about things in sports like that. Like what about those NASA suits that all the swimmers were wearing during the olympics. Didn't Phelps still kick there *** with a normal suit?
Mindless hectoring? Who did what?
Are you saying you have literature to back up your opinion? How did you come to that opinion in the first place?
I play golf as well and am fortunately able to minimize my unconscious desire to do the same as you, although it's not possible. 🙂
John
Yep 😀
Definitely, we have demo days all the time and some cool equipment at my country club. Titlest has a neat mechanical arm for swing clubs the exact same speed to prove what balls do what.
The trick for us is to get our swing speeds measured so we know what compression ball to it.
The same idea should be applied to Audio...findout your impedance curve of your speakers, your room gain, your speakers sensitivity, your listening distance, Your SPL requirements and from that you can EASILY select your amp. I can't wait for a comment on that from Curly woods (Mr 20 years audio sales) 😉
Personal experience. You are a person who obviously dismisses other people's experiences if they don't correspond to your own. I'm not going to waste my time with that anymore.
John
hehe, no amount of $$$ spend on equipment helps with that 5 foot birdie put for the win. 😉
I play with golf club pros and its amazing how much better the tour pros are compared to them.
Anyways, OT stuff. I just wanted to point out how subjectivity is even in sports. Dont get me started on those copper braclets or "special" fabric used. 😉
Not true at all, if you have data to back up your opinion I want to understand and learn it. Im not interested in subjective experience, sorry.
If you are just going to repeat over and over what others have posted already then its not worth either of our time but you are posting in this thread so time can not be that imporant to you (or me) 😉
Im really interested in why you think BIAS can be minimized. I have wondered if it can but I have yet to find anything credible out there.
Unfortunately, when evaluating a piece in your system, these things are all held constant during the comparison. For some reason you seem to think you have named five variables that audiophiles have never heard of.
John
Amen. Some people have a need to depend upon the opinions of others, as they can not form one based upon personal experiences of their own.
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