Panicos K said:
To take the last part first. You are the one hiding behind old slogans, not I. You brought up the "you can't hear" card. I agree such slogans are pointless, so quit using them.
As for my hearing, it is above average for my age, and besides that I'm regarded as being able to spot details right away, that others need more time to spot.
Last check was made less than 6 month ago, and such checks are made relatively frequently, simply to make sure I don't expect to be able to do something, that I am physically unable to do.
Back to the point. If you can hear those differences, it would be a walk in the park for you to prove it. Please do so, instead of distracting the discussion.
Magura 🙂
Panicos K said:
YES usually the person who thinks they got a placebo or a sugar pill and not the drug. 🙂
Of course most of the time you just get better on your own and then associate it with whatever you were doing or taking at the time as the reason you got better.
The only reason I bring it up is because it's counterintuitive and goes overlooked and as you have done over and over - people claim immunity to the effect.
Magura said:
I was the first person in this forum who said I can accept a test in my room,with my system and choice of one cable,a looong time ago.I was told it would be difficult due to distance and cost,and I find this logical.
Good you check your hearing regularily,and glad the results are good.
You said you can hear differences quickly that other people need more time to hear.This is what I said for my friend and the whale sound.Some seem to need a very long time.Not their fault,and surely not stupid,or of sub-intelligence.Learn how to look at both sides of the coin.Your limits can be higher or lower than anyone else's.You have just said that,and I agree with you,.....for a change🙂 I don't find this comment of yours a slogan,I just believe you and it is a fact,mostly for you.
Panicos K said:
Yes, if one is the 'stupid', the other is the smart. But the point was that the stupid isn't always the stupid, and the smart isn't always the smart. You can be very intelligent and still be stupid sometimes. In fact, I suspect we all are each of those.
So you see, those terms are relatively arbitrary. Yet, people react strongly if they perceive that they are considered stupid. Funny, isn't it?
Second point, being critical about someones opinion or belief doesn't automatically mean you find him stupid.
jd
janneman said:
Yes,this is a milder,clearer and a more neutral post,I will agree with you too....for a change.🙂
I will agree with your second point too,provided one does not try to leave the slightest implication to the other side.
As noted a few times by now, the only person using the word "stupid" so far, as I recall, is you.
Think about it.
As for making a test, I find it hard to see where cost comes into play.
It is rather easy, and cost seems like yet another excuse.
Magura 🙂
Think about it.
As for making a test, I find it hard to see where cost comes into play.
It is rather easy, and cost seems like yet another excuse.
Magura 🙂
Panicos K said:
Thank you. Maybe we can also hope that the 'other side' puts in some effort not to read what isn't intented 😉
jd
Magura said:
If you think cost is an excuse,it was not me who commended on cost at that time.If cost is not a problem for you,you are also welcome to come here for a test.I believe those who commended on difficulties and cost,surely meant travelling,staying etc.I can't blame anyone for this.
As for "using the word stupid"lets just say that as I don't like to imply anything similar for others,I don't like others to do that for me.And don't ask any further on this please.It would have been a lot easier for me to reply in the same way.Not my style anyway.
Haven't you really realized any implications or points that called for clarification?Or haven't you noticed that implications were mostly almost exclusively fired from one side?
Brian Josephson believes in the psychic powers of Uri Geller.
Arthur Conan Doyle believed in fairies.
John Taylor believed that children could bend metal using their minds.
William Crookes believed in spiritualism.
Philipp Lenard believed in the racial superiority of Germans and the extinction of Jews.
These were not stupid people. The things they believed in are, however, stupid.
Arthur Conan Doyle believed in fairies.
John Taylor believed that children could bend metal using their minds.
William Crookes believed in spiritualism.
Philipp Lenard believed in the racial superiority of Germans and the extinction of Jews.
These were not stupid people. The things they believed in are, however, stupid.
SY said:
Personally I won't take part in such a discussion,especially on some of your examples.Only thing I will say is that your list is incomplete🙂
SY said:
Thanks for letting me muddle on 😉 . Could have saved me a lot of time ... 😀
/OT on
Sandra says hi
/OT off
jd
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