Mr Linkwitz is a charming a knowledgable fellow. He said that he does not judge his work by other speakers, but by live music. Very wise.
But I have to say I was underwelmed by his Orions. Very nice, very smooth, but also very "hi-fi speaker" sounding to me. Not much like live music. Better than most, but not the best I've ever heard.
That said, I only heard them at RMAF in less than optimum conditions. Others who know the Orion rave about it (some of whom were in the room), so it may not have been its best at the show. So who knows?
But I have to say I was underwelmed by his Orions. Very nice, very smooth, but also very "hi-fi speaker" sounding to me. Not much like live music. Better than most, but not the best I've ever heard.
That said, I only heard them at RMAF in less than optimum conditions. Others who know the Orion rave about it (some of whom were in the room), so it may not have been its best at the show. So who knows?
brianco said:
Do I read it that you agree that a lot of buying decisions are influenced by illusion/delusion/marketing?
jd
I just skimmed the paper Jakob has linked to (the Sturm cable study) and I must say that at first scan it looks like a well-conducted test. It is in German, and possibly someone is going to translate the main results in English. Anybody has read it too?
jd
jd
brianco said:
At least one contributor to this thread has stated his preference for reproduced sound in his room compared to a live performance in a great concert hall. I guess audio is not so har after all 😉
Andre Visser said:
Hi Andre
I have to admit being slighly surprised with your approval of cheap opamps and chip amps. Which of the Linkwitz speakers have you heard?
analog_sa said:
What I've said were based on what I've read on his website, unfortunately I've never heard one of his speakers.
Talking about cheap opamps and chip amps, I did not think about that, perhaps I must withdraw what I've said. 😀
OK, so Peter Walker was a hack. Linkwitz is a hack. The stuff stinks. They don't have your exquisite sensitivity. You don't even have to hear a well-set-up system, you already know, using Audiophile Psychic Projection, that it will be awful. And this despite you claiming to be immune to bias and preconception.
Res ipsa loquitur.
Res ipsa loquitur.
Never said he was a hack. His stuff was pretty good fifty years ago. Half a century. If you were designing an umbilical to connect a pre-amp to an amp, would you run the line AC in the same bundle nestled right up next to the signal coming in?
As for Linkwitz, it's possible that his speakers may sound good, but at RAMF, his rig was awful. Just awful. Anyone who says it was any good must have surely been influenced by all of the lecturing on "scientific design".
John
Doesn't do too badly now, either. The ESL57 is still considered a reference standard, and a pair of immaculate Quad IIs would pay my mortgage for a while.
janneman said:
I did not know that but I was thinking more of the ESLs. Still that to me shows that he understood the practical theory so well that he knew the amp would work well.
brianco said:
Isn't this theoretically true? To me this seems like an engineer who knows his role.
Him and his company understood (still do?) the 1:1 relationship between the Mixing and/or Recording engineer and the listener. The goal is not to make the soundstage bigger, brighter, and extended. Not to perform some magic on the sound because there is no such thing.
SY said:
Perhaps, but they most certainly do not, now and especially so back in Walker's heyday in the 1950s & 1960s. His move into solid state was not very successful in terms of sound quality.
Re his qualifications; I assume that you refer to academic qualifications. Other than assuming that his qualifications were first class I know nothing of them; a very quick Google search has not revealed which qualifications he held.
There are many well qualified members of this forum who cannot begin to agree between themselves.....just run through the Blowtorch threads!
Technical and scientific Qualifications qualify one to work in a specific field/s. They do not make one an expert in that field.
janneman said:
Yes and also by uninformed reading of reviewers whose magazines are dependent on advertising revenue! 🙄 Good sonic properties are often quite low down the list of purchasing influences when account has been given to probable subconscious drives, aspirations, hopes and fears etc.
analog_sa said:
Freedom of choice - great!😉
Which is what I did with mine, although they weren't immaculate. I must have a lower mortgage payment than you.🙂
By the way, I was mistaken: The AC in the umbilical is only 6.3 volts. It's been ten years after all. A decade.
John
jlsem said:
Gentlemen, we all know the US has the lowest property prices and interest rates in the world. Please stop rubbing it in.
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