remove R141 to get infinity resistance and lower gain
short? (jump) R141 to get zero resistance and ?
Theoretically infinite gain. Great for producing a square wave...
I actually wanted a bit more gain and tried 1K in parallel with R141 and left it like that before I sent the NC400 back to the client today.
As long as you are aware that that does decrease the feedback a bit, so performance might suffer a bit (on paper - pretty sure the difference isn't audible).
Seems to be a fair bit of Scandinavians here. 🙂PS: Noted the Norsk flag - I have a brother in Kongsvinger. 🙂
R141 ( the resistor furthest to the left of the input connector according to the manual)
If you want lower gain, you have to remove R141, heating both ends with 2 solder ions and roll it away or one ion cover R141 with solder and "roll" it away
I've done it a few times but I always end up with R141 in place, with some preamps (passive and some buffers) it sounds less dynamic without
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According to the last comments a jumper is a bad idea (I have not studied the NC400 layout).If you want lower gain, you have to remove R141, heating both ends with 2 solder ions and roll it away or one ion cover R141 with solder and "roll" it away
I've done it a few times but I always end up with R141 in place, with some preamps (passive and some buffers) it sounds less dynamic without
Joe: I actually Icelandic, but live in Norway.
According to the last comments a jumper is a bad idea (I have not studied the NC400 layout).
One thing to remember is that R141 is part of the feedback loop, so a large jumper, forming an antenna, might not be the best thing in such a sensitive position.
As to having gain lowered by removing R141, somewhere early on in this thread Bruno actually comments that by lowering the gain you increase the feedback, so it probably results in slightly increased performance (but we are again talking about levels that only matter on paper).
Joe: I actually Icelandic, but live in Norway.
I see. Iceland, as you would know, was part of Denmark until 1945 when it got its independance. But, we are still cousins. 🙂
I see. Iceland, as you would know, was part of Denmark until 1945 when it got its independance.
As usual, the truth is much more complex than that, but I suggest we stick to discussing hypex ncores.
??? what du you suggest jumping?
I was backwards. Shorting removes gain, opening is infinite gain.
My apologies, and that is why peer review is a good thing.
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I was backwards. Shorting removes gain, opening is infinite gain.
My apologies, and that is why peer review is a good thing.
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just wanted to wake you up 😉
One thing to remember is that R141 is part of the feedback loop, so a large jumper, forming an antenna, might not be the best thing in such a sensitive position.

Even at 50 posts per page this thread is 198 pages, with - I'd guess - about 10-15% content and 85-90% arguing/banter (including this post). Shame.
Sometimes a bit of levity can be a good thing. As Einstein's favourite sparing partner once said: "Some things are so serious you can only joke about them."
Even at 50 posts per page this thread is 198 pages, with - I'd guess - about 10-15% content and 85-90% arguing/banter (including this post). Shame.
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Rens
Even at 50 posts per page this thread is 198 pages, with - I'd guess - about 10-15% content and 85-90% arguing/banter (including this post). Shame.
That's a bunch of subjective hooey. We need to review your categorization algorithm and determine what the distribution is on mixed-content/arguing/banter posts.
Incidentally I got around to measure the power consumption requested and they are using 19.2W at idle.
But how does that feel subjectively? We all know measurements don't tell the whole truth. 🙂
This has been covered... but....
The 600 has a secondary supply that allows lower heat dissipation on the NC400 board, where the 1200 lacks this. Beyond that there's not a ton of reason, besides some very slight possible advantages of the dual 600 setup for noise/crosstalk/dynamic performance.
Its not entirely been covered from what I saw. The SMPS1200 indeed has the negative HV bus output, but it is a volt or so lower than required by the NC400 to not use its onboard regulator. If there was a way to mod an SMPS1200 so this voltage could be increased to 16V or higher then the lower idle dissipation benefit would match the SMPS600. I haven't saw an explanation from Hypex as to why this is the case, however its probably to do with the SMPS1200A400 originally intended for use with the UcD modules.
Its not entirely been covered from what I saw. The SMPS1200 indeed has the negative HV bus output, but it is a volt or so lower than required by the NC400 to not use its onboard regulator. If there was a way to mod an SMPS1200 so this voltage could be increased to 16V or higher then the lower idle dissipation benefit would match the SMPS600. I haven't saw an explanation from Hypex as to why this is the case, however its probably to do with the SMPS1200A400 originally intended for use with the UcD modules.
Also the price difference is a bit puzzling.
Also the price difference is a bit puzzling.
It is. Its a much cheaper design compared to the SMPS1200. If they were using brand name caps like United Chemicon, Rubycon, etc instead of junk like Samwha I'd be more inclined to think the retail price is more acceptable. But it is what it is, the company exists to make money, using huge markups. It's like bashing Apple for doing the same thing with their ridiculous markups.
That said I prefer the SMPS1200 with its superior heatsink design...
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