The PR is a bit vague. Let me explain. What happened is that while I was designing Ncore I occasionally found bits and pieces that I could use in UcD as well. They are the gate drive circuit, a new comparator and optimizations to improve distortion before clip. Overall distortion improvement is around 6dB but more interestingly idle losses are also almost halved.
Any UcD module designed since contains these improvements, for no reason other than chronology. Currently they are the UcD250LP and a new UcD400OEM. Neither module is sold into the DIY. The HG and ST modules will receive the same tune-up in due course but the DIY NC400 module takes absolute priority.
Since not every new reader has the patience to read the whole thread, let me recap the overall plan for Ncore. UcD is already rather good and certainly adequate for practically any application. It would make no sense to rush out and flood the market with Ncore. So we're reserving Ncore for high end companies prepared to give it the profile it deserves. The NC1200 is the platform for that, so it isn't sold freely. I'm saying platform because we're offering customization. One of class D's problems in the high-end market has been the perception that it's just the same module in different boxes. We'll make sure one company's NC1200 won't be the same as another's (although of course measured performance will be the same).
For the DIY market there will be an über-tweaked version called NC400.
Any UcD module designed since contains these improvements, for no reason other than chronology. Currently they are the UcD250LP and a new UcD400OEM. Neither module is sold into the DIY. The HG and ST modules will receive the same tune-up in due course but the DIY NC400 module takes absolute priority.
Since not every new reader has the patience to read the whole thread, let me recap the overall plan for Ncore. UcD is already rather good and certainly adequate for practically any application. It would make no sense to rush out and flood the market with Ncore. So we're reserving Ncore for high end companies prepared to give it the profile it deserves. The NC1200 is the platform for that, so it isn't sold freely. I'm saying platform because we're offering customization. One of class D's problems in the high-end market has been the perception that it's just the same module in different boxes. We'll make sure one company's NC1200 won't be the same as another's (although of course measured performance will be the same).
For the DIY market there will be an über-tweaked version called NC400.
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Fantastic information Bruno - many thanks.
I'm looking forward to seeing what British speaker manufacturer PMC have to say about Ncore. As I understand it they currently use UcD400OEM's in their first ever branded stand-alone amplifer, having moved from away flying mole class D amps that were offered as integrated into some of their 'active' studio monitors. The amp got mixed reviews from the Hi-Fi world, and although I haven't heard it myself, it seems to make sense as when I first connected a class D amp to my PMC speakers, it took some getting used to.
To my ears, connecting a good class D amp to speakers from a studio monitoring background can be so revealing of the original source it sometimes verges on intrusive and offensive. I guess that's not something all Hi-Fi listeners are prepared to tolerate!
I'm looking forward to seeing what British speaker manufacturer PMC have to say about Ncore. As I understand it they currently use UcD400OEM's in their first ever branded stand-alone amplifer, having moved from away flying mole class D amps that were offered as integrated into some of their 'active' studio monitors. The amp got mixed reviews from the Hi-Fi world, and although I haven't heard it myself, it seems to make sense as when I first connected a class D amp to my PMC speakers, it took some getting used to.
To my ears, connecting a good class D amp to speakers from a studio monitoring background can be so revealing of the original source it sometimes verges on intrusive and offensive. I guess that's not something all Hi-Fi listeners are prepared to tolerate!
For the DIY market there will be an über-tweaked version called NC400.
When? (cant wait!) And it will be generally available to everyone? (still cant wait) 🙂
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When? (cant wait!) And it will be generally available to everyone? (still cant wait) 🙂
Yes...the DIY NCORE(R) version will be available for everybody....😎
Have you decided on an approximate price of the DIY Ncore module? Will it replace the current UCD or will it be a premium and more expensive module?
The UcD range remains in place, as explained in the first post of this page. The NC400 module simply becomes the new top of the range.
But when will the Ncore be ready? Next month? 2 months?
The DIY Ncore will be available in two to three months.
Great!
Does that include an SMPS designed specifically for the NC400 as well?
In our Ncore demo set we use the SMPS1200A700. Basically there is no need to have a special SMPS, but probably we'll develop one to have a nice compatible set...🙂
Ok.. so that means that the SMPS400A400 will work with the NC400 ?
I'm asking because I have UCD400's with SMPS400A400. It would be an easy upgrade to just swap the UCD's with NC's.
I'm asking because I have UCD400's with SMPS400A400. It would be an easy upgrade to just swap the UCD's with NC's.
Ok.. so that means that the SMPS400A400 will work with the NC400 ?
I'm asking because I have UCD400's with SMPS400A400. It would be an easy upgrade to just swap the UCD's with NC's.
Correct, the SMPS400A400 will be compatible with the DIY NC400.
Great. All that remains is for us DIY'ers to wait for the NC400 to become available. If it is as good as the measurements indicate, I might very well be the last amp I'll ever buy.
Great. All that remains is for us DIY'ers to wait for the NC400 to become available. If it is as good as the measurements indicate, I might very well be the last amp I'll ever buy.
Yep....

StigErik,
As I got it the ncore will need dedicated low voltage supplies for the front end due to much higher current consumption of the discrete class A buffer, unless those plans have been scraped...
-Jan-Peter, I guess you mean that the SMPS400 is only useful as supply for the output stages, not the input stages, no? Or has the plans concerning the discrete class A input stage been changed recently?
As I got it the ncore will need dedicated low voltage supplies for the front end due to much higher current consumption of the discrete class A buffer, unless those plans have been scraped...
-Jan-Peter, I guess you mean that the SMPS400 is only useful as supply for the output stages, not the input stages, no? Or has the plans concerning the discrete class A input stage been changed recently?
StigErik,
As I got it the ncore will need dedicated low voltage supplies for the front end due to much higher current consumption of the discrete class A buffer, unless those plans have been scraped...
-Jan-Peter, I guess you mean that the SMPS400 is only useful as supply for the output stages, not the input stages, no? Or has the plans concerning the discrete class A input stage been changed recently?
Aarggghhh, you're completely right here!
It means only the SMPS1200A400 is compatible for the DIY NC400!
.........It means only the SMPS1200A400 is compatible for the DIY NC400!
It would be nice to have a 1U compatible solution for both the amplifier module and the power supply.
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