Hypex Ncore

[Julf]

Didn't need to. I have stopped bothering about small changes

But what is your statement that "it did not sound enough clean and resolved" based on then?

 

[TNT]

In the end we need to trust what we hear. Each on its own

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[Omholt]

Sure. But a minimum of fair testing is stil required to judge with you ears...

 

[Julf]

In the end we need to trust what we hear.

No, we don't.

When you are building a cabinet, do you "trust what you see", or do you actually measure before you cut the wood?

 

[SSassen]

No, we don't.

When you are building a cabinet, do you "trust what you see", or do you actually measure before you cut the wood?

+1

 

[Julf]

Acception without proper examination equals religion
Condemnation without proper examination equals prejudice

How true!

 

[TNT]

In order to judge if you like a cabinet or not, do You need to measure it first?

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[Julf]

In order to judge if you like a cabinet or not, do You need to measure it first?

In order to judge if you like a cabinet or not, you need to build it first. I don't think that happens by randomly tossing pieces of wood into a pile and seeing if you like it or not...

 

[TNT]

Analogy derailed

 

[ChrisPa]

I think you have to first lick the cabinet and weigh it

It's no good if it tastes too heavy

 

[Julf]

Analogy derailed

Not derailed, just deflected. Let's try another one instead:

Which horizontal line segment is longer, (a) or (b)?

An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.

 

[TNT]

Blackadder IV - Never trust men with beards - YouTube

(to ChrisPA)

 

[TNT]

Never really got the start...

"...do you "trust what you see", or do you actually measure before you cut the wood?"

What do one see before the wood is cut??

 

[Julf]

Never really got the start...

"...do you "trust what you see", or do you actually measure before you cut the wood?"

What do one see before the wood is cut??

Let me then rephrase that to "do you just cut the pieces for a cabinet based on a visual estimate of the right place to cut?".

Anyway, forget the analogies - the point is that our senses are great for deciding what *we* *like*, but are pretty useless for precise, absolute references or comparisons. Anyone who has actually done proper double-blind testing will be very aware of this - and people who haven't keep saying silly things like "I *know* what I hear".

 

[TNT]

Well myself, I just feed my perception with whatever it likes

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[Julf]

Well myself, I just feed my perception with whatever it likes

Fair enough - but that means that all we can say about the headphone amp as a preamp is that you don't like it. It might be because of how it sounds, but it might not.

 

[TNT]

Of cource. How could it be any other way. This is how I judge all statements here. You win some, you lose some.

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[Julf]

Of cource. How could it be any other way. This is how I judge all statements here.

Does that apply to "2 + 2 = 4" too? How about "I think the nc400 sounds better when you connect the input signal to the speaker outputs, and the speaker to the input pins"?

Not all statements are equal. Some are more equal than others.

 

[TNT]

No. No. True. True.

How I judge all descriptions of how things sounds. Sorry!

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[akasha]

In the end we need to trust what we hear. Each on its own

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+1