The only natural soundstage I've heard was with binaural recordings through headphones.
But otherwise it wasn't really high fidelity, which is interesting. The two concepts seem
to be somewhat decoupled.
But otherwise it wasn't really high fidelity, which is interesting. The two concepts seem
to be somewhat decoupled.
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Its been a journet for me. A long one.
Started from identifying sounds, instruments, voices.
Then to imaging of recordings.
Then to bass articulation.
Then to voice articulation.
Then back to instruments and it's harmonics.
Then to ambience.
Then to space between instruments and vocals.
Then to the connecting sound of instruments and voices.
Then back to space between instruments and vocals with each own ambience
Then further all of that to the flow of the music.
Its 24yrs and counting.
Started from identifying sounds, instruments, voices.
Then to imaging of recordings.
Then to bass articulation.
Then to voice articulation.
Then back to instruments and it's harmonics.
Then to ambience.
Then to space between instruments and vocals.
Then to the connecting sound of instruments and voices.
Then back to space between instruments and vocals with each own ambience
Then further all of that to the flow of the music.
Its 24yrs and counting.
This has always made me wonder how one recognizes familiar sounds, such as knowing the voice of an old friend on the telephone even if you havent talked for years? I don’t believe our aural memory is as feeble as it’s portrayed to be.Just curious, how did you keep your aural memory fresh for 3 hours and longer?
I'd guess that your journey is fairly typical for audiophiles, and suspect that it affords 'ears' us which are superior to that of typical (non-audiophile) test subjects utilized in many scientific audio listening experiments. I believe this is because we audiophiles are typically much more practiced/experienced observers of the auditory illusion that is stereo reproduction.Its been a journet for me. A long one.
Started from identifying sounds, instruments, voices.
Then to imaging of recordings.
Then to bass articulation.
Then to voice articulation.
Then back to instruments and it's harmonics.
Then to ambience.
Then to space between instruments and vocals.
Then to the connecting sound of instruments and voices.
Then back to space between instruments and vocals with each own ambience
Then further all of that to the flow of the music.
Its 24yrs and counting.
It's not that we have any superior sensory hearing acuity, especially because, depending on our age and gender, our sensory acuity is significantly worse than for the average person. Audiophiles which I know, are both older and male. Being older, makes sense, as audio isn't a hobby which favors the light of pocket. Why male, I've no idea. Other than, perhaps, the gear/equipment oriented nature of the hobby attracts men more than women.
This often gets mixed up. Let me try to clarify it for you, if you are listening to a familiar sound through 2 different devices for comparison, how long would you wait between switching devices, say, something like 3 seconds, 3 hours or 3 days?This has always made me wonder how one recognizes familiar sounds, such as knowing the voice of an old friend on the telephone even if you havent talked for years? I don’t believe our aural memory is as feeble as it’s portrayed to be.
Im not sure im following what your trying to get across……if a certain piece of equipment when compared to another (for argument’s sake lets say is level matched, head in the vice and all your other comparison requirements were met) sounds too bright or too harsh, it could be three years and it would still be the same sound in my memory……example; listening after those three yrs and saying ’oh yah…..thats why that has sat to the wayside for so long’
now i do agree that its a personal thing, as in we’re a bunch of unique snowflakes as the old saying goes, but on a personal level ones aural memories (at least mine anyways) are there for recall, especially when prompted by hearing the same sound….quite innate imo.
now i do agree that its a personal thing, as in we’re a bunch of unique snowflakes as the old saying goes, but on a personal level ones aural memories (at least mine anyways) are there for recall, especially when prompted by hearing the same sound….quite innate imo.
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You are still missing the concept. You were arguing about distinguishing the voice of one person from others long time later which isn't hard to do because the others sound different. The aural memory I brought up was observing the same sound source (person's voice if you will) to see if there is a slight change or none.if a certain piece of equipment when compared to another (for argument’s sake lets say is level matched, head in the vice and all your other comparison requirements were met) sounds too bright or too harsh, it could be three years and it would still be the same sound in my memory
that would be inflection right? after reading a little about auditory memory it seems as though theres different levels of capturing it depending on the situation.
im still relatively young at 42yrs old age haha....I'd guess that your journey is fairly typical for audiophiles, and suspect that it affords 'ears' us which are superior to that of typical (non-audiophile) test subjects utilized in many scientific audio listening experiments. I believe this is because we audiophiles are typically much more practiced/experienced observers of the auditory illusion that is stereo reproduction.
It's not that we have any superior sensory hearing acuity, especially because, depending on our age and gender, our sensory acuity is significantly worse than for the average person. Audiophiles which I know, are both older and male. Being older, makes sense, as audio isn't a hobby which favors the light of pocket. Why male, I've no idea. Other than, perhaps, the gear/equipment oriented nature of the hobby attracts men more than women.
imho and ime, if you cant distinguish the overall performance of a system within 1-2mins of a song or two, then either there's not much differences or the system couldnt reveal much differences.
There has to be more than just 2 possibilities, no? 🤔either there's not much differences or the system couldnt reveal much differences.
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what do you think would that be?There has to be more than just 2 possibilities, no? 🤔
I always tried to be as objective as i could when assessing system or equipment.
But yeah, i agree those two happens often (not very often for me)
But yeah, i agree those two happens often (not very often for me)
Preconceived notion, uncontrolled bias...
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