Amusing, i'm still contemplating to build cardanic tables, similar to Mr Räke's GravitA and Argos, for both CD transport ánd TT.
Must be hard, storage of those tapes.
Whom are you talking about? Can you name three or four and what their systems are, since you're making this claim?
I used to run his big bother. The 8 track, 2" tape version. Quite a beast. Glad I didn't have to buy one to listen at home, tho. 😉
Then you've done your job as a recording engineer wrong and should start looking for other work. Start now.
Like it or not, recordings are produced, engineered and mastered. The use of limiters and compressors abounds. Their over use is also quite a fad.
Don't know where you got that message. Many of the most dynamic recordings I've heard were on LP. Tape and digital can do that too. Classical music works well on LP and it's much more dynamic than most pop or rock. I don't see the problem.
Oddly, the only Mantovani I own is on CD. It's smooth there, too.
I do agree this is a tired debate, and whether it has any purposeful value is a debate unto itself. It does seem to me there are some that haven't much experience with vinyl formats. Truth be told, vinyl died for all intents and purposes many years ago, and it wasn't digital that killed it; it was cassette tape. Cool and convenient, blah blah blah...
The vinyl is dead. Long live the vinyl!
The vinyl is dead. Long live the vinyl!
Seriously SY , only 3 ..................
Cassette Killed vinyl .. 🙄 Star date 2011 and vinyl is still going strong!
Forget digital tunes; analog music on the upswing - Computerworld
That's pretty obvious.
I don't think so. Most people I talk to bought CD's to replace their LP's. The cassette, wasn't even on their radar. People that were buying pre-recorded cassettes, didn't own a turntable, therefore weren't buying LP's.
jeff
Guess I gotta explain...
I was speaking in terms of units sold/market share. Nothing subjective there.
I was speaking in terms of units sold/market share. Nothing subjective there.
Nice to meet you Hubble, I appreciate allot your work on distant galaxies 🙂 - sorry for that! 🙂
Please confirm the number 105, one zero five (one hundred and five)! 😱
Sorry for my statement then! Never knew there were 105 megapixel sensors!
The info about the losses from analog to digital I have from the time when both our national radio golden fund and our cinema archive began attempts for digitalization of their collections. I must update then.
Never the less my position is not against digital, no, not at all! But LP against CD and SACD - definitely. I have several albums both on LP and on CD and I must say that the LP very totally outperforms the CD.
The biggest difference being kick drum resolution and bass notes resolution - far, far greater on the LP. And the high frequencies, better detail and less distortion on the LP.
And just a little step off topic, maybe the biggest barrier before say the broadcast quality 24/192 records are the DAC's and especially the audiophile DAC's. I always get the impression that something is wrong with the sound coming from an external DAC the more complicated the bigger the impression. It is an effect like the musicians have performed in an anechoic chamber. Too many details such as saliva in the mouth of the drummer, someone breathing, someone binking with his eye... and on top of this there is no information about the environment.
Maybe if a company such as Yamaha or Mitsubishi or General Electric or I don't know decides to come back at the market with a digital player with purpose built DAC and DAC peripherals, maybe then the digital technology will have it's advantages exploited.
Do you know the way to tell when a small high-end company really comes to something new and very good?
- If it gets bought by a big worldwide company, then you know that they had something good... 😉
... no such occurances recently...
Cool,
must be cheaper than the silica gel storage cabinet for welding electrodes i used for tapes (Uher).
Miklos,
When I read your posts, I never came across any facts at all.
I will say that while I puzzled over your opinions in search of a shred of objective information, it was impossible to "not" notice your spelling.
Mastering it however, was not difficult, as I worked for many years around people for whom English was a not only a second language, but often their third, fourth or even fifth language. Just the same, you were thoughtful enough to use rather simplistic ideas and words.
Thanks again,
TerryO
Four or five, if you like, but with three (or even two), I'll be convinced that you weren't just making stuff up to try to discredit people who disagree with you. So... who participating here doesn't listen to music and doesn't have a hifi system, making their sonic evaluations instead with $80 PC speakers?
C'mon, the entire Tarantino clan is involved, says so on the cover, there's even a Sandler in the motion picture.
The guy is a spitting image of Quentin with glasses as Richie Gecko in From Dusk till Dawn.
The guy is a spitting image of Quentin with glasses as Richie Gecko in From Dusk till Dawn.
I have listened to LP's on and off since 1965. Most of that early listening was background as my parents, and older cousins were very much into music. I started listening semi critically about 1969. That largely due to my taking up trumpet, as well as finding out that I could sing (very well I might add) 🙂
My first TT was a Dual 1224 w/Stanon cartridge. The first amp a Sansui AU7700 intergrated and speakers Boze 501's. I know it was'nt much. But worlds better than the all-in-one record player /8 Track/ AM/FM radio made by Zenith that I sported from 1970 to 1973. I was never in love with the 8 track. The radio served to introduce me to new music of any and every type. The one thing that constantly floored me was my willingness to clean (in those days butcher would be more accurate) those 12 inch disks, and sit for hours acutally hearing things on them, that were not evident when auditioned on the radio. I was, very much in love.
Fast forward to my first CD player. About 1983; Hafler amp, NAD pre amp Technics SL1200MKII with Ortofon X1 MC and Pioneer (constantantly skipping) CD, M&K Sat/SUB speakers. (I still have and use the cartridge) The new CD somehow never amounted to much more than a set and forget background sound generator.
It did not require the care and feeding of the TT. And its sound although clear, was just not as involving as that of the LP. I always came back to LP's for serious listening. It was not until I came by the Marantz CD63 SE, that I could actually listen to a CD in the same manner in which I listened to an LP. What I know now to be ambiance, was missing. In its place, loudness and high end resoultion.
Seemingly more bass, but nothing with character in the middle.
Party music, where loud was fine and nuaune was not required or desired. I have never listened to a SACD, but my mind remains open that the medium may well be very good. But CD's at least in my mind (Ears) have come a very long way in terms of being worthy of critical listening. When well mastered, they are very good indeed.
Today, Pass Aleph2 Pre/Aleph2 mono blocks. Rega P5 w/Benz L2 Wood. Rega Jupiter CD w/Benchmark DAC1 and Revel Studio speakers. These things seem clear;
LP's need to be cleaned and perserved to sound their best.
CD players need good source material and a good DAC.
Keep power cords away from I/O cables.
Isolate your TT from unwanted vibrations.
Keep other equipment on sturdy ground as well.
Treat your listening area for first reflections and booming bass.
Various posters on this site are excellent sources of information.
Love what you love and make of it what you will. 🙂
My first TT was a Dual 1224 w/Stanon cartridge. The first amp a Sansui AU7700 intergrated and speakers Boze 501's. I know it was'nt much. But worlds better than the all-in-one record player /8 Track/ AM/FM radio made by Zenith that I sported from 1970 to 1973. I was never in love with the 8 track. The radio served to introduce me to new music of any and every type. The one thing that constantly floored me was my willingness to clean (in those days butcher would be more accurate) those 12 inch disks, and sit for hours acutally hearing things on them, that were not evident when auditioned on the radio. I was, very much in love.
Fast forward to my first CD player. About 1983; Hafler amp, NAD pre amp Technics SL1200MKII with Ortofon X1 MC and Pioneer (constantantly skipping) CD, M&K Sat/SUB speakers. (I still have and use the cartridge) The new CD somehow never amounted to much more than a set and forget background sound generator.
It did not require the care and feeding of the TT. And its sound although clear, was just not as involving as that of the LP. I always came back to LP's for serious listening. It was not until I came by the Marantz CD63 SE, that I could actually listen to a CD in the same manner in which I listened to an LP. What I know now to be ambiance, was missing. In its place, loudness and high end resoultion.
Seemingly more bass, but nothing with character in the middle.
Party music, where loud was fine and nuaune was not required or desired. I have never listened to a SACD, but my mind remains open that the medium may well be very good. But CD's at least in my mind (Ears) have come a very long way in terms of being worthy of critical listening. When well mastered, they are very good indeed.
Today, Pass Aleph2 Pre/Aleph2 mono blocks. Rega P5 w/Benz L2 Wood. Rega Jupiter CD w/Benchmark DAC1 and Revel Studio speakers. These things seem clear;
LP's need to be cleaned and perserved to sound their best.
CD players need good source material and a good DAC.
Keep power cords away from I/O cables.
Isolate your TT from unwanted vibrations.
Keep other equipment on sturdy ground as well.
Treat your listening area for first reflections and booming bass.
Various posters on this site are excellent sources of information.
Love what you love and make of it what you will. 🙂
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