Here we go, the Revelation Awakening Experience.Please join the end of the queue for your slot on TV Evangelists, but you might enrage a few christians when they find your gasping and panting revelations relate to a disc of flat black vinyl plastic as an idol.
It's up to you if you like the many ways that vinyl mangles sonics. But if you want a valid revelation, try being a subject in a controlled test comparing a CD with the analog or digital master it is made from. I have. Then, if you have the humility to refrain from trying to shoot the test method in a desperate attempt to maintain old beliefs, you might come to understand that you have thus far been liking wrongness. The wronger the liker.
Sure lunchbox , so smart and still in daycare .... 🙄
Sorry mate, I have answered that question 42 times before , i will now refrain, as the peanut gallery implodes and enjoy the Irony....
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Completely quote you!!!
It's all about how much you are willing to spend on the analogue rig....then you can determine if Digital is your cup of tea for the budget you have!
good point!!
...however with $30K on your total analogue FE (TT, Tonearm, Cart, Phono and interconnects) is still not enough to compete with the very best of the digital world.
I know many here won't agree with this, digital has come a long way and when you talk about a $20-30K digital source and compare it to $20-30 Analogue...things get hard...but I do think that digital might still have some more neutrality and resolution.
Just a top of the line phono will set you more than that...and at that level, then, Digital is no match anymore whether DSD, SACD, DVD bla bla bla!!!
I am also aware you can get a very enjoyable sound with much less, but if we talk about best of both worlds then we got to cross the t-s and the i-s
Unfortunately or fortunately SQ isn't correlated to money.
First thing is to have a very good recording no matter: vinyl, CD or HiRez file.
Digital don't needs a special adjust. Analog needs special mechanical adjustement to enjoy it, no matter how much money invested always needs a very good adjustment. I always look for an equilabrated sound: not to much or not to less: lows, mids or highs, If you like classical music could you look for the same tone of natural instrument including human voices.
Do you forgot Doug Sax😱
too bad the original tape machines weren't to that standard - kind of hard to make up after the fact for '60s analog tape machine
promo material doesn't mention http://www.plangentprocesses.com/
Unfortunately sound quality is directly proportional to money invested. You might not know that yet as your gears are all cheap and not really have first hand on experience on real expensive stuff!
It sometimes almost easier to translate the concept to cars....can you get the pleasure, comfort, elegance, speed, acceleration, Beauty and so on as so forth of a Lamborghini for $30-40K?
If you do...please let me know and I will buy that car !!!!!!
Maybe you prefer a Ferrari, or a top end Mercedes or a Maserati....in the end though, all these other options are pure subjective preferences and won't come cheap either!
Do you forgot Doug Sax😱[/QUOTE]
You could also add James Guthrie and Joel Plante.
I was focusing on the technology used more than the people involved 😉
You could also add James Guthrie and Joel Plante.
I was focusing on the technology used more than the people involved 😉
Recent I had a very good listen experience when listening to a DAC with output transformers as source.
The best sound of exceptional quality distinct it self by easy sub-bas and micro-detail and contrast at moderate level to gather it will make the reproduction as real it is like live in the room without stressing the listener.
It can be done digital, and 16bit. In a blind test you can easy pick out what you like due the noise of the record player. And maybe it is the noise as carrier what people mis in digital as emotion.
I hear from my phono gear also a bigger sound stage and refinement in the high frequencies. Question is what is the reference to compare witch source is closest to reality.
Other wise it will be more a question of taste to say which sounds better.
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YES!! I absolutely quote you!!! That's is what I have been trying to say from the beginning! Many people use vinyl as they can customize to make their personal preferences a reality.
Hi-end is not made of that, it is made of what gets closer to a real reproduction,
It is of course impossible to get to that level, but any designer should strive toward that.
Same things applies not only when designing something, but as a consequence, to what technology or what support is better: LP or Digital.
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When did that start happening? Did someone suddenly change the rules by which fashion markets operate without telling me?Stefanoo said:
At the low end of any market it may be true that quality varies with price. At the top end people are paying for something quite different: exclusivity, bragging rights, fashion, 'hand-made' (often inferior to machine-made), designer logos, 'good' marketing stories. Why else would people pay a fortune for a watch which tells the time in exactly the same way and with the same accuracy as a very cheap one? Why else would people buy an expensive European car which keeps breaking down and guzzles fuel when a cheap Japanese car would get them reliably from A to B every time?
You nailed it perfectly.... super detailed bass without noise is possible with digital but when it comes to refined treble and wide soundstage, I always find myself leaning to analog replay.
And the "noise" you can hear with vinyl (if you use headphones at full volume in the silent parts between the music) might as well work as dither.
There are few expensive Japanese cars that are pretty cool too....not as cool as the Lamborghini Aventador...am I being patriotic? 😀
Quite hard?
You really overly complicate this with your $$$$ complex.
It's quite simple: For instance, any current or recent Creative Sound Blaster sound card blows vinyl performance out of the water.
Pricing from $30, topping out at $250.
With remaining $20k-$30 can you can buy lots of music, go to live shows, even build a brand new listening room.
turntables are mono right? how you get stereo from mono ?what are riaa preamps doing exactly? maybe one should burn vinyl rip(good quality) to audio cd then compare in blind tests , i think one would fail to judge difference between real vinyl and cd imitation burned one..
Oh my god!! What do you want me to tell you?! You obviously still need to learn the basic of decent sound let alone knowing what hi end system is supposed to sound!😱😱
Most turntables are stereo, there is a small subset of enthusiasts who own tables that are equipped for mono playback of 78s and early mono LPs.These may have special arms, and are equipped with mono cartridges with a stylus having a suitable geometry for the disks played. Some mm stereo cartridges may also play these older recordings with the fitting of an appropriate stylus. Both Pickering and Shure have offered such stylii for some models.
RIAA equalization compensates for the recording curve used during cutting to reduce groove modulation at LF and the constant velocity (as opposed to constant amplitude) characteristic of magnetic cartridges, both mc and mm. Strain gauge and ceramic/crystal cartridges do not require external equalization. More details about recording characteristics can be found here: The Secret Society of Lathe Trolls • View topic - Inverse RIAA curve Circuit + Info
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