Inherited a home with built-in speakers, including an in-wall subwoofer. Purchased a Pioneer multi-channel receiver, front, center and back speakers work. Purchased a Dayton 240 watt subwoofer plate amplifier - plugged black and red into the amp from the sub. Running a Y from the amp to the receiver. No sound.
Clear there is no problem with the receiver set-up (mastered that first).
Any thoughts?
I'm a total amateur, but have read every word in the user manuals multiple times.
From receiver, out on a single wire, to the Y plugged into low level input on the amp.
Red and black each out through low level to sub.
Clear there is no problem with the receiver set-up (mastered that first).
Any thoughts?
I'm a total amateur, but have read every word in the user manuals multiple times.
From receiver, out on a single wire, to the Y plugged into low level input on the amp.
Red and black each out through low level to sub.
The outputs on most plate amps are on the amplifier pcb, not the red and black speaker <inputs> on the rear panel. Is this where you have connected your subwoofer? Try posting a detailed picture of both sides of the plate amp or a link..
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The black and red are not connected to the back - there are black and red wires on the back, (those say they are the output lead for subwoofer driver).
The black and red are not connected to the back - there are black and red wires on the back, (those say they are the output lead for subwoofer driver).
Play the receiver into the speakers. Turn the volume all the way down. Unplug the wire from the front left or right speaker, and connect to the subwoofer, and slowly turn up the volume, just to see if it plays. That will tell you if it is working, or if maybe damaged or become unplugged.
I also feel some tremulation that maybe you are plugging the subwoofer to the speaker INPUT of the plate amp (which is designed to Y- off the speaker output from a receiver).
Try connecting that output you mention to one of your fullrange speakers, again starting with the volume low. You may want the speaker close to your ear depending if your speakers put out much bass or not.
I also feel some tremulation that maybe you are plugging the subwoofer to the speaker INPUT of the plate amp (which is designed to Y- off the speaker output from a receiver).
Try connecting that output you mention to one of your fullrange speakers, again starting with the volume low. You may want the speaker close to your ear depending if your speakers put out much bass or not.
a good time to check "everything"; you can do a lot in a few mins. Do you have an spare iPod with rca jacks? A AA or 9volt battery could check to see if the sub-woofer is okay; connect that to speaker leads only!
A H_U mentioned, out goes to in >>
I don't think you need the Y with the Dayton plate amps; not that a Y would keep it from working.
A H_U mentioned, out goes to in >>
I don't think you need the Y with the Dayton plate amps; not that a Y would keep it from working.
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Thank you very much, someone is coming over tonight who is more familiar than me, and we'll try all of these suggestions.
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Thank you very much, someone is coming over tonight who is more familiar than me, and we'll try all of these suggestions.
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
Hi lorelei12,
You need to connect the speaker to the output of "HIGH LEVEL IN/OUT - TO SPEAKERS", which in your picture is to the left of the "LOW LEVEL - OUTPUT - INPUT". The low level input comes from, e.g.: the subwoofer output of your receiver, and the low level output allows you to send the processed signal to the input of another amplifier, and from there on to a speaker, the low level output cannot drive a speaker directly.
Regards,
You need to connect the speaker to the output of "HIGH LEVEL IN/OUT - TO SPEAKERS", which in your picture is to the left of the "LOW LEVEL - OUTPUT - INPUT". The low level input comes from, e.g.: the subwoofer output of your receiver, and the low level output allows you to send the processed signal to the input of another amplifier, and from there on to a speaker, the low level output cannot drive a speaker directly.
Regards,
/\ What he said sounds good. It is a bit confusing how it is labled, I can see how a person could get it wrong.
That has to be it then! I'm getting excited.
I understand - the red and the black going to the subwoofer from the amp need to be plugged into the high level.
There are four plugs for this. A red and a black for left and a red and a black for right. I only have one red and one black to plug in.
Thoughts?
P.S. I'm very thankful for your time.
I understand - the red and the black going to the subwoofer from the amp need to be plugged into the high level.
There are four plugs for this. A red and a black for left and a red and a black for right. I only have one red and one black to plug in.
Thoughts?
P.S. I'm very thankful for your time.
you can just use one side of your amp, for now anyway.
just to double check, there is only one pair of wires coming from the sub-woofer?
just to double check, there is only one pair of wires coming from the sub-woofer?
Hi,
No that is wrong.
The hi level in /outs are for from L+R speaker channels from a
amplifier as inputs and the outputs are for the L+R speakers.
That why there are two sets of binding posts for in and out.
The plate amp derives it signal form the inputs and just adds
crappy capacitors in series to the left and right speakers.
You don't need them, don't use them.
The connections on the back panel have nothing to do with
connecting the subwoofer driver, that is on the other side,
they are the ~ 20" long leads you described earlier.
The low level inputs should be fed from a Y cable from your
AV amplifiers LFE output, set frequency to to max and level
to something sensible, us the AV amplifier to adjust.
FWIW the low level outputs are just a copy of the inputs,
pretty much next to useless in any practical setup.
rgds, sreten.
Note that if all your speakers are set to large in the AV
amplifiers menu, there will be no LFE output possibly.
Check your AV amplifiers manual carefully.
What AV amplifier is it ?
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I agree with sreten,
To start over, make sure all the speakers are set to small in the reciever menu then check that the subwoofer is set to Yes. Then you should attach a RCA cable to the subwoofer output on the reciever to a RCA Y adaptor and attach this to the Low level inputs (L/R) on the sub amp. Then use the red and black wires coming out the back of the sa240 (see pic) to get power to the subwoofer.
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Yes, I agree. There should only be one speaker wire connected to the plate amp, the "use this" connected to the speaker cable from the in-wall subwoofer.
And if you don't understand what we mean, tell us which model Pioneer receiver you have and we can help more. (Especially if you can find a link to the Owner's Manual online).
We're glad to help!
And if you don't understand what we mean, tell us which model Pioneer receiver you have and we can help more. (Especially if you can find a link to the Owner's Manual online).
We're glad to help!
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