Changing coils makes a larger difference than changing caps but you need to have a lot of room and a lot of money. So the simple answer is no for now. there is great debate about this with proponents on both sides. Take small steps so you know what you have done sounds like.
Okay, I'll just start with what I have. If I did want to replace the coils, which ones would you suggest? The ones at parts-express all seem fairly small.
How it works, blake, is that baked (non-vibrational) air coils are about as good as it gets. 🙂
Once you add high inductance values and ferrite cores, they get a bit less than ideal. It's to do with magnetic hysteresis. Which is a non-linear effect.
Your tweeter coils are really just fine. 0.75 mH ferrite bass coils would probably work better as air coils. That's not a high value or particularly non-linear. So give it a go anyway. I woudn't expect too many problems.
You could doubtless find a 0.75mH air coil easily enough. But that's perfectionism. 🙂
Once you add high inductance values and ferrite cores, they get a bit less than ideal. It's to do with magnetic hysteresis. Which is a non-linear effect.
Your tweeter coils are really just fine. 0.75 mH ferrite bass coils would probably work better as air coils. That's not a high value or particularly non-linear. So give it a go anyway. I woudn't expect too many problems.
You could doubtless find a 0.75mH air coil easily enough. But that's perfectionism. 🙂
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if you don't do things in good old fashioned steps you won't learn a thing and you will spend the rest of your life asking people to tell you what to do. If you want to know what things do and what they sound like you will have to do them one at a time at least once to have any kind of idea. Ten people will tell you ten different thins about the same topic only your opinion matters to you. I understand that you want to fast track things but it does not work that way. You cannot buy experience and you cannot make it happen over night. You you want to get the sticker shock take a look at the 8 gage North Creek Music Coils North Creek Music Coil Inductors . Best regards Moray James.
PS: if you plan to use coils like these it would be foolish to use them with less than outstanding capacitors and capacitors that you happen to love. Some caps take 4-6 weeks to settle in and sound correct so you cant buy three types and play with them for a weekend and know $h*t about them, some things take time so slow down and enjoy the experience of finding out, that where your answers lie.
PS: if you plan to use coils like these it would be foolish to use them with less than outstanding capacitors and capacitors that you happen to love. Some caps take 4-6 weeks to settle in and sound correct so you cant buy three types and play with them for a weekend and know $h*t about them, some things take time so slow down and enjoy the experience of finding out, that where your answers lie.
I appreciate the help but I respectfully ask that you spare me the life lectures. I got enough of that unwelcome input on the Klipsch forums (and from my in-laws). 😛 You don't even know me. 😉
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Seriously, the whole audio reproduction relies on a process...indeed it's called System and starts from the disc and terminates to your ears. The process determines what you hear - the sound.
The bass coil would best be a 0.75mH baked air coil IMO. Especially if you use more complex tank notches, the 15R and 0.47uF which knocks out some cone breakup at 7kHz here, which have a tuned effect and highish Q. But it's small. And a bit of coil resistance is accounted for in the crossover and cabinet.
I do these sort of 4th order LR4 filters myself on occasion. TBH, the weaknesses are more in the cheap drivers (Visaton W200S bass and mylar DT94 tweeter) and the vaguely tuned port here. That's where I would throw more cash down the road.
Welcome to our hobby. 🙂
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Seems to me you were provided with a lot of good information at the Klipsch forum along with very good explanations as to why the advice was given and what the result could be if it was ignored. You ignored the advice went ahead on your own and what you were warned about happened.
Who says I ignored the advice? Some advice given was/is outside my means. Seriously, don't bring this here too. Please don't address me anymore. The horse is dead for Christ sake. The advice I was looking for was not given. Some was, but not all that I needed. Enough already. I am NOT interested in arguing with random people who know nothing about me. I just won't respond to these kind of posts anymore. F**k sake man..
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Seems to me that you brought up that topic and more not me. I see a pattern here so I will leave you to it.
blake84, I want to know how this turns out. I'm a bit unclear what the speaker is exactly. Seems like an efficient metal 6" bass MMT with a horn tweeter. I know how those work. 🙂
Keep us posted with photos and updates on this project. It's quite difficult the first time to get all the skills together, but I respect what you are attempting.
All speakers are a compromise, but Klipsch seem to do high efficiency very well.
I could probably suggest some improvements later, because commercial designs always go for the bare simplest, IME.
Keep us posted with photos and updates on this project. It's quite difficult the first time to get all the skills together, but I respect what you are attempting.
All speakers are a compromise, but Klipsch seem to do high efficiency very well.
I could probably suggest some improvements later, because commercial designs always go for the bare simplest, IME.
So I have finished the RF-3 II towers and the RS-3 ii surrounds so far. (Just gotta do the center now) My god... The difference is just incredible! They are entirely different speakers now!! Now I'm really excited about changing out those tiny little inductors!
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