40mm would be nice for the front baffle. It could also work nicely for the the other panels although 19 or 25mm would also be sufficient.
It's overkill for the bracing though. If you've got 10mm panels, you could think of glueing 2 together if you're able. Or use 19mm.
Cabinet dimensions should be adjusted so that Vb still ends up at about 75L.
It's overkill for the bracing though. If you've got 10mm panels, you could think of glueing 2 together if you're able. Or use 19mm.
Cabinet dimensions should be adjusted so that Vb still ends up at about 75L.
merlin,
You seem to have a mental block concerning volume calculations but they are really very simple math.
For a cube-like object,
V (in L) = length x width x height (all in cm) / 1000
So, a 30cm x 40cm x 4cm panel = 4800 cm^3 / 1000 = 4.8 L (just punch the numbers into a calculator)
For a cylinder,
V (L) = area x height = pi x radius^2 x height (all in cm) / 1000
So, if you cut out a hole in the panel with a diameter of 13cm then
radius = 6.5cm and pi = 3.14
so volume of the cylinder of wood removed is,
V = [ 3.14 x (6.5 x 6.5) x 4 ] /1000
= 530.66 / 1000
= .531 L
So the net volume of your panel is
V = 4.8 - .531
= 4.269 L
So, just do this for each one of your interior panels and then add them up. That's the volume of your bracing.
Ports are also simply cylinders. The volume of your driver is a little harder to figure out. I roughly guestimate it at about 1 L.
With this information, you should be able to figure out your net box volume. Just break it all down on a piece of paper into all the separate pieces if you have to. Ask again if you run into any problems.
You seem to have a mental block concerning volume calculations but they are really very simple math.
For a cube-like object,
V (in L) = length x width x height (all in cm) / 1000
So, a 30cm x 40cm x 4cm panel = 4800 cm^3 / 1000 = 4.8 L (just punch the numbers into a calculator)
For a cylinder,
V (L) = area x height = pi x radius^2 x height (all in cm) / 1000
So, if you cut out a hole in the panel with a diameter of 13cm then
radius = 6.5cm and pi = 3.14
so volume of the cylinder of wood removed is,
V = [ 3.14 x (6.5 x 6.5) x 4 ] /1000
= 530.66 / 1000
= .531 L
So the net volume of your panel is
V = 4.8 - .531
= 4.269 L
So, just do this for each one of your interior panels and then add them up. That's the volume of your bracing.
Ports are also simply cylinders. The volume of your driver is a little harder to figure out. I roughly guestimate it at about 1 L.
With this information, you should be able to figure out your net box volume. Just break it all down on a piece of paper into all the separate pieces if you have to. Ask again if you run into any problems.
thank you for your patient jReave, do you know a on line calculator to filter the woofers?
TIA
Felipe
TIA
Felipe
Stay away from on-line xo calculators - they are not accurate because driver impedance varies with frequency and so does phase.
I may be able to give you some help but, fair warning, I am not an expert at xo simulations yet.
I may be able to give you some help but, fair warning, I am not an expert at xo simulations yet.
40mm would be nice for the front baffle. It could also work nicely for the the other panels although 19 or 25mm would also be sufficient.
It's overkill for the bracing though. If you've got 10mm panels, you could think of glueing 2 together if you're able. Or use 19mm.
Cabinet dimensions should be adjusted so that Vb still ends up at about 75L.
If I make all bafle with 40mm will be necessary bracing?
Looking for information I get this info in our forum: "Low Pass = Linkwitz Riley 24db/octave at 300hz"
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/228114-sb-8-inch-woofer-sounds-great-its-own-2.html
Link to "help for 3 way Xover" http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/analogue-source/239399-xover-filter-woofer-sb-23nrsx45-8-a.html
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/228114-sb-8-inch-woofer-sounds-great-its-own-2.html
Link to "help for 3 way Xover" http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/analogue-source/239399-xover-filter-woofer-sb-23nrsx45-8-a.html
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If I make all bafle with 40mm will be necessary bracing?
Yes, continue to use the bracing as you have designed it.
merlin,
I need to know what the xo looks like on your mid and tweeter.
mid xover

tweeter xover

I found in other thread the xover for the woofer SB Acoustic SB 23NRSX45-8
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/228114-sb-8-inch-woofer-sounds-great-its-own-2.html
The advice is Low Pass = Linkwitz Riley 24db/octave at 300hz.
On line calculator result:
L1 8.92 mH
L2 2.186 mH
C1 66.7 uF
C2 10.66 uF
Can be a good point to start?
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/228114-sb-8-inch-woofer-sounds-great-its-own-2.html
The advice is Low Pass = Linkwitz Riley 24db/octave at 300hz.
On line calculator result:
L1 8.92 mH
L2 2.186 mH
C1 66.7 uF
C2 10.66 uF
Can be a good point to start?

Well no, I think the right place to start is with a proper simulation. I'm working on it. Just be patient.
And no, I also wouldn't start with a 4th order. I'd start with a 2nd order, see how that works out and then add more components only if necessary.
Also, you are going to have to add a high pass circuit to your mid too.
And no, I also wouldn't start with a 4th order. I'd start with a 2nd order, see how that works out and then add more components only if necessary.
Also, you are going to have to add a high pass circuit to your mid too.
Well no, I think the right place to start is with a proper simulation. I'm working on it. Just be patient.
And no, I also wouldn't start with a 4th order. I'd start with a 2nd order, see how that works out and then add more components only if necessary.
Also, you are going to have to add a high pass circuit to your mid too.
Thanks for your support, really appreciated.
You're welcome.
Thanks for the xo info.
Using the dimensions and drawings you've provided so far, it looks like your woofer is 555mm above the floor, and I'm guestimating the mid at 687mm and the tweeter at 840mm. Are these correct?
And also, what is the height of your ears at your listening position?
Thanks for the xo info.
Using the dimensions and drawings you've provided so far, it looks like your woofer is 555mm above the floor, and I'm guestimating the mid at 687mm and the tweeter at 840mm. Are these correct?
And also, what is the height of your ears at your listening position?
oops, let me try that again.
tweeter - 1015mm
mid - 860mm
woofer - 555mm
Listening height about the same as the tweeter height?
tweeter - 1015mm
mid - 860mm
woofer - 555mm
Listening height about the same as the tweeter height?
You're welcome.
Thanks for the xo info.
Using the dimensions and drawings you've provided so far, it looks like your woofer is 555mm above the floor, and I'm guestimating the mid at 687mm and the tweeter at 840mm. Are these correct?
And also, what is the height of your ears at your listening position?
Listening position is 88cm
How to add a high pass filter to mids?
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May I ask , why do you build it as integrated speaker ? You know that position in the room is almost always a compromise between quality/quantity of the bass and quality of stereophonic imaging , sound staging , purity of midrange etc. By joining the sections together you effectively shoot yourself in the foot except if your monitor clearly sucks at 60-70 hz which may not be the case with SS mnidbass.
I want to do like this, bracing MDF 1cm will be enough with aprox. 3 liters?![]()
Dimensions aren't correct, the image it's only to ilustrate what I want to make.
Tweeter center is 28cm high of the mid-high cabinet. If I want to separate the bass cabinet 5cm away from the floor the max heigh for cabinet woofer must be only 55cm.
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