Dave,
It occurred to me this might be an issue (plug center/orientation) and perhaps other magnetic ill effects on the voice coil ? I have not attatched the washers yet. So......3 screws it is.
As far as my cone treatment do you foresee any issues? As stated above the rear of cone treated, front of cone treated only on outer rib to surround and area directly behind the whizzer ( I do intend on reattatching them). I also only treated the outer bell/lip front & rear on the whizzer cone.
I just wanted a two- tone look for aesthetic reasons. Front or rear treatment is there an audible difference?The jury is still out on if I will attempt your pattern.....not because I have doubts on your method (acrylic paint?) but simply because of my 53 yr old unsteady hands. Lol
Any suggestions on this matter (puzzlecoat) or any other would be appreciated.
It occurred to me this might be an issue (plug center/orientation) and perhaps other magnetic ill effects on the voice coil ? I have not attatched the washers yet. So......3 screws it is.
As far as my cone treatment do you foresee any issues? As stated above the rear of cone treated, front of cone treated only on outer rib to surround and area directly behind the whizzer ( I do intend on reattatching them). I also only treated the outer bell/lip front & rear on the whizzer cone.
I just wanted a two- tone look for aesthetic reasons. Front or rear treatment is there an audible difference?The jury is still out on if I will attempt your pattern.....not because I have doubts on your method (acrylic paint?) but simply because of my 53 yr old unsteady hands. Lol
Any suggestions on this matter (puzzlecoat) or any other would be appreciated.
I have been preoccupied with the unfortunate rigors of life. Lol
As to the drivers I did complete my goals. Treatments include: duct seal on inner legs of frame and front plate/magnet structure then wrapped with felt. 1 coat of Hodgepodge cone/whizzer with second coat on outercone near the surround and on the whizzer's outward perimeter. Removed dust cap, added pvc " phase plug".
As to the cabs? Lol. Yeah, yeah was given another 3/4 sheet of partical board ( same 3/4" ). What do you do with "extra" material? Why do something silly with it of course.
As to the drivers I did complete my goals. Treatments include: duct seal on inner legs of frame and front plate/magnet structure then wrapped with felt. 1 coat of Hodgepodge cone/whizzer with second coat on outercone near the surround and on the whizzer's outward perimeter. Removed dust cap, added pvc " phase plug".
As to the cabs? Lol. Yeah, yeah was given another 3/4 sheet of partical board ( same 3/4" ). What do you do with "extra" material? Why do something silly with it of course.
Overall the drivers response is smoother, more open, and not as bright/brittle/harsh to my ears. Less fatiguing. They don't seem to have lost any high frequencies either, although not empirical ( no test equip ).
Sarah McLachlan's Surfacing, Tracy Chapman's self titled, Eagles Hell Freezes Over, Clapton's Unplugged they do fairly well although with heavier busy rock tracks tthehr drivers seem/sound "confused", perhaps too much info for them to decipher.
The cabs are obviously not suited for these drivers ( I just they looked " cool". Lol. A hollow ringing from the mouth.
Sarah McLachlan's Surfacing, Tracy Chapman's self titled, Eagles Hell Freezes Over, Clapton's Unplugged they do fairly well although with heavier busy rock tracks tthehr drivers seem/sound "confused", perhaps too much info for them to decipher.
The cabs are obviously not suited for these drivers ( I just they looked " cool". Lol. A hollow ringing from the mouth.
I do plan on building proper cabs as per suggestions fairly soon ( prob sealed ), I'm sure the overall sound will improve. I just liked the look and had a morbid curiosity on building those blh....... even with all 90° cuts, what a p.i.t.a. Never again. Lol. I will keep the cabs,( too much work to just toss out) and perhaps find some better suited drivers with a lower qts down the line.
For now I will keep running them, try different things ( placement, tweeters, sub/ no sub etc.
All in all it has been quite fun so far to try to make $11 drivers sound like $24.99 ones. Ha.
For now I will keep running them, try different things ( placement, tweeters, sub/ no sub etc.
All in all it has been quite fun so far to try to make $11 drivers sound like $24.99 ones. Ha.
Here is the link to the BIB design. It’s the best option but big. We used the real Pioneer drivers, I’m not sure if the copies have the same measurements.
Pioneer 8" BOFU BIB
Pioneer 8" BOFU BIB
If you connect this tweeter connected through a 2mfd capacitor it sounds great
Dayton Audio ND16FA-6 5/8" Soft Dome Neodymium Tweeter
Dayton Audio ND16FA-6 5/8" Soft Dome Neodymium Tweeter
Scroll down to REVIEWS for at least a couple of radically different set of specs: Full-Range 8" Speaker Pioneer Type B20FU20-51FW
GM
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