No, I don't even claim to speak for myself. I was just trying to understand what your wibbling was all about. Your claim to not understand leadbelly's point seemed deliberately obtuse, so piqued my curiosity.
What's the purpose of this "hoax"? I can see the huge incentive to call global warming a hoax but not much for the other way around.
wrong, they are cheap. Why is this so difficult for you to grasp? By the way what credibility do they have?
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Luke is that with or without the subsidies and externalities? Fossil fuels aren't so cheap when you account for those costs.
No one is arguing whether or not it's an excellent everything storage medium not whether it has catalyzed tremendously transformative. There may be some disagreement that it has been artificially priced, and even more about it's true cost.
No one is arguing whether or not it's an excellent everything storage medium not whether it has catalyzed tremendously transformative. There may be some disagreement that it has been artificially priced, and even more about it's true cost.
Indeed fossil fuels are typically heavily subsidized. Certainly here in North America. And even beyond that: my favourite PJ O'Rourke line is when he was covering the 1st Iraq invasion, he was looking at all the military units lined up on the Kuwait border, he thought "boy is it more expensive to steal oil than buy it".
Oh, this one is EASY 😛 to follow.
Somebody says anything, for example :
* "Sun in the day, Moon on the night"
Evenharmonics (EH for short) answers contradicting:
* "No it ain´t so"
* "Ice is cold, fire is hot"
EH: "prove it !!"
* "2+2=4"
EH: "Watch this 63 hour video by Qwerty Smith who explains that a Scientists Conspiracy claims so to earn Big Money"
and so on and on and on for >580 posts and counting.
Notice I am not here to contradict EH or argue with or convince him, waste of time, it´s just that outside it´s hot and humid and here you have such a nice air conditioning, powered by a sulfurous coal burning Power Station, but since EH says it´s fine, and complaining or worrying is a conspiracy, then I must believe him 😛
Shouldn´t I ? 😱
Petrol here is half tax. There is diesel tax too, Europe it's probably the same. How can this statement be true then?
If the industry is subsidised then you have to ask why? GDP is basically linked to how much energy you use, so if the biggest energy source is being subsidised then that indicates huge implications for the global economy.
What other reasons for subisidising fuels, geopolitical maybe? ie harming economies of oil dependent countries by investing in unsustainable sources of local fuel, i.e. fracking, this is speculation here, I don't know the answer, but it seems unlikely that the fuel industry is subsided IMO.
I also don't blindly trust data from generally trusted organisations. Where money is involved there is always an angle.
I'm dumb 🙄
Is it possible to be more evasive?
Everyone with more than 2 functioning braincells knows.
The cost of fossil fuels, even if exaggerated 1000 times by the IMF, are still humongous....
Cheap energy for big companies.
This is a good mindset.
How much money is involved with fossil fuels?
The fossil fuel industry has always behaved honestly when it came to their products in the past... Oh wait, what was that lead in gasoline thingy again?
Tetrahedrallead is/was an anti knock agent that was added to gasoline around 1920. It was added to gasoline to prevent detonation and was quite effective.
Considering the attitude of most industries in the early 20th century I don't find this surprising.
Considering the attitude of most industries in the early 20th century I don't find this surprising.
Of course you can't quote because you can't find it outside of your imagination. BTW, I've hinted my point (to leadbelly) twice since post #556 but to no avail to you.
You've been obsessed with talking about me starting at post #484. Perhaps because you don't have anything to offer on global warming.
Evasive like the example quoted below? The reason why you can't quote my claim is because you too can't find it outside of your own imagination. Next time you want to reply to someone, please read their posts carefully before you do.
Bill, do you know the difference between a hypothesis and a fact? Do you read the links you post? None of this is proof, its just throwing noise at us.
If you don't want to question your beliefs, then its pointless us discussing this. I for one have switched sides more than once, on this debate, and yes I am not 100% sure. But I have come to my conclusion after reading different arguments for and against. Have you seriously tried to look for any scientific evidence that global warming is not real?
How much have we spent on trying to influence and fund nations in the mid-East, or in actual wars there, in the past 40 years? Most of that can be attributable to protecting our energy interests. Trillions upon trillions. Other than protecting Israel, which I believe is important, one can argue that there has been little or no benefit to this capital investment other than protecting our oil interests, when other alternatives present themselves. Add that to the price of gas.
Not obsessed or I´d be doing all the time, no matter what. 🙄
But your silly "arguments" and "me against the world" stance keep popping up day after day after day on MY screen, it´s YOU who keeps banging the trash cans and waking up all neighbours within a mile.
Oh I do: it´s a problem,it´s man made and it must be stopped.
It took exactly *one* line. 🙄
Now you have filled 60pages (so far) , 600 posts by now, spewing nonsense.
Maybe you think repeating 2+2=5 ad nauseam will make it true? 🙄
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