Gainclone with pseudo-balanced input?

Mad_K

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2002-09-12 11:14 am
Norway
Re: Mad K, where'd you get your amp cases?

darkmoebius said:
I've been following this thread and have to say congratualtions and thanks for posting your adventures. I'm ordering parts this week to make a copy of Joe Rasmussen's(Sp?) Tube-buffered inverted GainClone (derived from more of Kui's work).

Anyway, I'm looking for a good chassis to house it all. And how much do they cost?

Thanks for all the work,

Darkmoebius


they're from elfa.se/no and is called ds2480 (cheap -like $75)
 

Mad_K

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2002-09-12 11:14 am
Norway
Latest Schematic

Here it is Erik ;)

BTW I have tried dozens of things to my gc, but ended up pretty much where I started.
 

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no, i mean the input impedace of a diference amp is only conditionally equal, thus it is only conditionally balenced. for non-inverting input it is 110k in your case. for the inverting terminal however, it will be determined by the voltage at the non-inverting terminal, and will be 10k with 0v at the noninveritng input.

so at best noise rejection becomes a function of noise. this would be better for balenced lines in which there is no inverted line.

i'm assuming you have no noise issues and thus don't even need it to be balenced, as any attempt to decrease external noise will increase internal noise.
 

Mad_K

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2002-09-12 11:14 am
Norway
theChris said:
no, i mean the input impedace of a diference amp is only conditionally equal, thus it is only conditionally balenced. for non-inverting input it is 110k in your case. for the inverting terminal however, it will be determined by the voltage at the non-inverting terminal, and will be 10k with 0v at the noninveritng input.

so at best noise rejection becomes a function of noise. this would be better for balenced lines in which there is no inverted line.

i'm assuming you have no noise issues and thus don't even need it to be balenced, as any attempt to decrease external noise will increase internal noise.

-How would you do it then?
 
Mad_K said:


-How would you do it then?


the transformer method is the simplest implementation. another method is to use a non-inverting gainclone with an opamp. the opamp is noninverting, and has a gain of 2. the gainclone's feedback ties to the output of the opamp. basically a 2 amplifer instrumentation amplifer.

bridging is also an answer.
 

Mad_K

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2002-09-12 11:14 am
Norway
Ultrafast vs Ultrasoft

Today I replaced the MSR1560 (OnSemi) diodes in my psu with MUR860 (OnSemi) ...

Funny how the diodes in the psu can impact the sound of an amp :bigeyes:
I didn't have any great expectations about the change, but felt I had to give it a try.
MSR1560: Gave a very balanced sound, pleasant, smooth, relaxed.
MUR860: More agile sound. Sound seems a little more detailed -the treble is a little more pronounced, while the bass is a little "faster".
These are my immediate findigs. I think I'll let them stay.

So my conclusion is that both types are very nice, and what you prefer depends on the rest of your system and listening habits.

BTW, I have ordrered new trafo's (24VAC), so I'll report back how the amp performs with elevated rails (hopefully even more dynamic) ;)
 

Mad_K

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2002-09-12 11:14 am
Norway
Well, time for new updates... Trafos upped to 24VAC ones = more power and tighter bass, more agile. Coupling cap WIMA MKP10 15nF. Proper wiring. Main filtercaps ELNA LPH 2200uF/63V =midrange more focused/cleaner sound/more dynamic. Ultra matched resistors. DC-offset in uV range ;)

-I can hardly stop listening to it :D

some pics to follow:
 

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