I have never, ever worried about phase angles and such, things that some people seem to obsess about, 😛. It's never got in the way of getting the sound I chase - far, far bigger fish to fry, 😀 ...
The clean sound you're getting is mainly because you're making the work that the amplifiers have to do much easier - if they're in a comfort zone then the sound you hear is likewise ... 🙂
You're right, I guess. It seems pointless to worry about problems I don't hear. Thanks.
Its interesting to consider why phase angles in crossovers are of interest to the majority. From my perspective its because they're considering the on-axis sound and assume a listener in a fairly narrow sweetspot one or perhaps two seats wide. But in the disappearing speakers scenario beloved by us electronics tweakers there's also the curious case of the disappearing sweetspot. There's just a 'walk-around' presentation so what path length differences between drivers should be considered?
I do line up my drivers so their radiating faces are time aligned.
I guess if I could find a full range whose treble I could live with, that would be the best way to go.
Some 2" EJ Jordans came very close when another driver does the heavy lifting below 200 hz, but wasn't quite there for me.
This driver is very impressive in all other aspects, and to be fair, are intended to be used in pairs of 4, which I didn't commit to .
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it would be interesting to know, how many customers he has/monthThe latest BS from that crazy guy
Audio Tweaks, Damping, Vibration Isolation, Room Acoustics, Crystals
Once again, upon reading the new posts, I am struck with the scary thought that far too many humans are willing to accept anything at all that gives them of a feeling of power without expending the real effort required to actually earn such power. Others are willing to gain the power by selling it to them. This does not end well, it ends in reality stepping in and resetting false core values to absolute values. This is occuring in a group of people that must possess higher than average IQs. )-: The stark implications here are not so much amusing as they are frightening. )-:
We don,t need electricity, we will exist in harmony with nature as short lived creatures who die of bug bites playing acoustic gutars, true audiophiles at last.
Try doing electronics that bolt to a tank wall, mechanical vibration and 100+db sound levels🙂
Yes. I've pulled some 10 + hour shifts in steam plants and turbine rooms.
After a week or so it can feel like your body's been used for a heavy bag.
I think if one could beam 15 hz high amplitude sine waves, that would be a weapon of mass destruction.
Oh my Stereophile is gearing up for the latest cable scam event.🙄
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Per the above.
Is there really no hope? If one tries to be decent and expose such, one will want to help prevent others from believing in this chaos. However if one does just that, it will not be appreciated. If you ridicule it, people will be hurt, if you do not expose it then, you are guilty of permitting outright lies to lie uncorrected. If you personally profit by exploiting the weakness of others, than what sort of person are you looking at in the mirror? Please, someone with more sense than I have (99% of you) tell me how you win this one!!!!
Is there really no hope? If one tries to be decent and expose such, one will want to help prevent others from believing in this chaos. However if one does just that, it will not be appreciated. If you ridicule it, people will be hurt, if you do not expose it then, you are guilty of permitting outright lies to lie uncorrected. If you personally profit by exploiting the weakness of others, than what sort of person are you looking at in the mirror? Please, someone with more sense than I have (99% of you) tell me how you win this one!!!!
By demonstrating, to those that care, that there is a correct sound - which is the sound of the the particular recording being played, fully brought forward into the light of day. Those that just wish to fiddle with that sound, apply various, assorted, "tone controls" to make it conform with their desire, or belief as to how it 'should sound' will continue to do so, no matter what - they should be left alone, to continue playing with their toys ... 😀, 😛.
Frank, the correct sound is no change in signal from input to output, and deal with the speakers and room as well as you can afford to. What is needed otherwise is a wire with lots of clean gain, hope that the mix and master guys did a good job on good gear.
Dianna Krall
Dave Matthews
Donald Fagen
The three D's of reference
Records played recorded mixed and mastered only by people who really care about sound quality.
If these records do not sound good on your gear, there is something wrong with your room/speaker interface. All this is providing you have top notch DA conversion, are not letting any software/windows bit mangling occur and have clean high wattage power amps that are not clipping. For most people the weak link in going to be DA conversion and there are perfect units in these days for as little as $100. In my opinion the best of digital recording eclipsed the best of analog recording a few years ago. That's all there is. I personally insist on horn speakers when I'm not working because I truly dislike the dynamic compression distortion that most flat speakers exhibit, and yes, I know that if you have a very nice high wattage amp this ugly stuff is mollified to an acceptable level for many. My rule, (I like to say to my non audio tech savvy friends that makes them crazy) >> Tiny inefficient speakers sound best with massive amps (till they blow up) and massive efficient speakers can do OK with clean tiny amps till they clip, but the best thing is massive speakers with massive amps, as flat and as close to a point source as possible.
We all know this, but the general public does not. There it is, no wires can change any of that.
Dianna Krall
Dave Matthews
Donald Fagen
The three D's of reference
Records played recorded mixed and mastered only by people who really care about sound quality.
If these records do not sound good on your gear, there is something wrong with your room/speaker interface. All this is providing you have top notch DA conversion, are not letting any software/windows bit mangling occur and have clean high wattage power amps that are not clipping. For most people the weak link in going to be DA conversion and there are perfect units in these days for as little as $100. In my opinion the best of digital recording eclipsed the best of analog recording a few years ago. That's all there is. I personally insist on horn speakers when I'm not working because I truly dislike the dynamic compression distortion that most flat speakers exhibit, and yes, I know that if you have a very nice high wattage amp this ugly stuff is mollified to an acceptable level for many. My rule, (I like to say to my non audio tech savvy friends that makes them crazy) >> Tiny inefficient speakers sound best with massive amps (till they blow up) and massive efficient speakers can do OK with clean tiny amps till they clip, but the best thing is massive speakers with massive amps, as flat and as close to a point source as possible.
We all know this, but the general public does not. There it is, no wires can change any of that.
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Unfortunately, when systems misbehave the type of wiring does change the apparent tonal characteristics, hence the popularity of myriad variations on cabling. To stop key types of misbehaviour, once and for all, your suggestion of powerful amplifiers with efficient speakers is an easy route, but is largely avoided by most. Usually, IMO, because remanent distortions elsewhere in the chain are now too easily heard, are too obvious; so the process of trying to disguise, hide those distortions now starts, and so the cycle goes around yet again.
There is only one agenda for audio reproduction, the truth. Faulty cables are faulty and must be replaced. There is no difference in sound between any non faulty Radio Shack audio cable and any other non faulty cable at any price. As long as you do not have faulty line cables or inadequate gauge speakers cables there is no measurable or audible difference. Same goes for big clean high current power amps from Hafler to Bryston to Krell, no difference. There remains only foolish people who should not be allowed to influence others into chaotic ignorance, the vultures that sell to them, and the heroes who keep on top of them.
The truth is never trendy, never in style or out. It just exists.When your signal arrives at your speakers, it should be first heard as the artist and engineer intended it to be heard.
Afterwards, it is fair game for it to be twisted, mangled and raped by fools who need to play with their little gadgets and proudly exhibit their "proof of low IQ" mega dollar fluffy cables.
The truth is never trendy, never in style or out. It just exists.When your signal arrives at your speakers, it should be first heard as the artist and engineer intended it to be heard.
Afterwards, it is fair game for it to be twisted, mangled and raped by fools who need to play with their little gadgets and proudly exhibit their "proof of low IQ" mega dollar fluffy cables.
I keep a roll of Byepoo Quantum Purifier in the bathroom. Works as advertised and plugs into the circuit where it deserves to go.
Mebbe we should show up at the AudioAdvice Digital Living 2014 with a case of "Byepoo", each roll wrapped in holographic rainbow reflecting aluminum foil (do a google image search on "holographic aluminum foil" - it's real purty), and see how many people can be convinced that the sound improves when the cables are routed through the roll. At least there'll be free food.
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