Well, car makers vs consumers have different interest criteria. Fuel consumption and driving experience would be of more interest for probably most people whom already own cars.
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Sure.....Originally we were thinking about not revealing the technology, but since I have applied for a patent..., anybody interested in discussing this snake oil?
What was the original version and what is your implementation ?.
Dan.
Star quad experiments with unbalanced inputs, doubled pack conductors for balanced systems, same results.So your equipment is using balanced inputs and outputs?
On overview yes, at deeper level, no.No 'essentially' about it, star-quad cables are not directional. current flows the same either way. Because it's wire. And that's how wire works.
Dan.
Again, I'd like to remind those making broadly sensational claims that there's a Nobel or three waiting for their discovery and slumming around on audio fora is no place for such monumental work.
Star quad experiments with unbalanced inputs, doubled pack conductors for balanced systems, same results.
On overview yes, at deeper level, no.
Dan.
Using Star Quad on unbalanced inputs completely defeats the purpose of Star Quad.
On overview, yes, at deeper levels, still yes. Take a piece of unmarked wire, throw it as high in the air as you can, when it comes down pick it up and tell me which end is which.
Take a piece of unmarked wire, throw it as high in the air as you can, when it comes down pick it up and tell me which end is which.
That's easy. Just listen to it - the differences are not subtle

Jan
That's easy. Just listen to it - the differences are not subtle
Jan
So you put it up to your ear, or what?
I have related this experience previously.Again, I'd like to remind those making broadly sensational claims that there's a Nobel or three waiting for their discovery and slumming around on audio fora is no place for such monumental work.
From the repair shop that I worked at I 'won' a scrapped Dual turntable that required new phono cables.
I took a length of el cheapo shielded cable, stripped both ends and terminated these ends at the turntable.
I then cut the cable and fitted RCA plugs, connected to my amp and voila, vinyl sound via V15III.
All sounded great except for a balance problem that would not centre.
I tried adjusting tracking angle, VTA, antiskating, swapping RCA connections, swapping cartridge connections and the balance problem moved but did not go away.
The amp had St/Rev/Mono/L/R switching which proved that the amp was not at fault, so it had to be to do with the TT but I had tried the possible connection permutations without curing the problem...WTF.
Sometime after that a hifi dealer friend showed me the effect of flipping the direction of one interconnect in a clear, revealing system.
Same deal, the balance shifted to one side and balance control did not cure the problem.....the penny dropped, this was the problem with my TT.
As soon as I got home I reversed the direction of one of the TT phono cables and presto, problem solved....at last !.
The root of the problem was that I listened to the answer that I was given when I asked in class if wires are directional....the answer was an emphatic "NO, wires are not and cannot be directional".....because of this belief I did not pay attention to ensuring that both channel cables laid in the same direction.
I now know much better than to believe all that I am told.
Dan.
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Sure.
What was the original version and what is your implementation ?.
Dan.
Attached are the original an new. These basically are use in the intake duct. There are actually many varieties of the new design. I have posted only one.
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I don't care how many stories you try to tell. Show evidence. Hard evidence in a manner that has a chance of being reproduced.
Well, car makers vs consumers have different interest criteria. Fuel consumption and driving experience would be of more interest for probably most people whom already own cars.
missing the point. The internal combustion engine was well sorted by the 1930s in terms of the technicalities of how to burn fuel. However there are some compromises that couldn't be handled with the technology of the time. Manufacturers would love great drivablity, good power and 100mpg, but they have to meet emissions standards. If you have found something that people from Sir Harry Ricardo onwards have missed then fame and fortune awaits.
Ref your drawing Fuel Saver Devices Don’t Work
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I have given all the instructions that you need to try the experiment for yourself.I don't care how many stories you try to tell. Show evidence. Hard evidence in a manner that has a chance of being reproduced.
Dan.
Here in Aus long time ago there was a late night TV advert for a thin sheet metal device that inserted between carburetor and intake manifold.Attached are the original an new. These basically are use in the intake duct. There are actually many varieties of the new design. I have posted only one.
IIRC it was effectively stationary fan blades that introduced swirl into the air stream to improve mixture uniformity and cylinder air sharing.
Old is new again.
Dan.
I would really like to find a solution that works on Diesel engines with turbos. Unfortunately the original design did not work on engines with turbos or engines with carburetors.missing the point. The internal combustion engine was well sorted by the 1930s in terms of the technicalities of how to burn fuel. However there are some compromises that couldn't be handled with the technology of the time. Manufacturers would love great drivablity, good power and 100mpg, but they have to meet emissions standards. If you have found something that people from Sir Harry Ricardo onwards have missed then fame and fortune awaits.
Ref your drawing Fuel Saver Devices Don’t Work
I think so too. For what Dan has explained, it really takes less time to try it than argue.
Hahahahaha, not if you actually want a thorough test. Sloppy testing is what gets you to these sensational ideas in the first place.
And evidently what I call an experimental procedure is wildly different than what is proposed here.
That does not conserve fuel because it was something I used to enhance high rpm pull up speed.Here in Aus long time ago there was a late night TV advert for a thin sheet metal device that inserted between carburetor and intake manifold.
IIRC it was effectively stationary fan blades that introduced swirl into the air stream to improve mixture uniformity and cylinder air sharing.
Old is new again.
Dan.
Hahahahaha, not if you actually want a thorough test. Sloppy testing is what gets you to these sensational ideas in the first place.
And evidently what I call an experimental procedure is wildly different than what is proposed here.
Actually quick and dirty tests are very cost effective before entering into more detailed testing.
DPH, shut down your computer.Hahahahaha, not if you actually want a thorough test. Sloppy testing is what gets you to these sensational ideas in the first place.
And evidently what I call an experimental procedure is wildly different than what is proposed here.
Go to your lounge room and try the experiment of reversing the direction of one of two identical interconnects.
If you do not have a pair of identical interconnects, beg, borrow, steal or construct a pair and try the experiment mentioned.
When you have tried all the permutations of connecting the two interconnects, go back to your computer and report what you find....capisce ?.
Dan.
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