Hi,
Because the FR forum is for single driver based designs, unlike the multiway forum.
rgds, sreten.
What I meant to say was how the different enclosures would affect the peformance of the A7. Would they both sound the same or would one design have better midrange and imaging while the other has nmore bass extension?
Midband & top should be about the same on all... the larger enclosures should get more low frequency extension.
Neither our FH3 or Maeshowe have been fully optimized yet, so i can't really comment on the ultimate result. Even so, i could happily live with either as they are. It will also be interesting to get the dMar-Ken7 back into play -- we have a set done up in Neopolitan bamboo ply waiting for me to do up a set of gold/copper/orange drivers for them. Bud is VERY pleased with his.
dave
Neither our FH3 or Maeshowe have been fully optimized yet, so i can't really comment on the ultimate result. Even so, i could happily live with either as they are. It will also be interesting to get the dMar-Ken7 back into play -- we have a set done up in Neopolitan bamboo ply waiting for me to do up a set of gold/copper/orange drivers for them. Bud is VERY pleased with his.
dave
After reading some Pass articles and looking on Frugal Horn site, I am somewhat interested in the metronome enclosures presented with Fostex drivers. These builds have been executed and seem to be performing well so it is difficult not to use them instead of the Alpair's. I know Woden offers some Metronome designs for the Alpair's, but once again, there is no experience. What is your experience/opinion, if any, of the metronome designs, and do you think the Alpair drivers are worth the extra money over the Fostex based on what you have heard to this point? Clearly i am not a seasoned veteran like many and have to admit to being somewaht intimidated by the beta testing of speakers. THat being said, if in your opinion, you think the Alpair's are worth it, I will proabably beta one of the designs we have been speaking of, assuming of course you will hold my hand and tell me everything is going to be allright! 😛
All the Mets are at the Frudal-Horn site (and Scott has a hand in most of them). The pointy towers on Woden are not Mets (but quite similar).
The FE127 Met has had a number of happy builders, but supply of that driver is limited. A few for the FE108eS and the FE167. I don't recall any reports on ones using the FExx6 drivers which would represent current availabily.
The most successful mets (based on user feedback) are probably the EL70 bipole met. The EL70 is ~the same $$$ as the similar size Fostex, and in particular, more suited to most SS amps.
dave
The FE127 Met has had a number of happy builders, but supply of that driver is limited. A few for the FE108eS and the FE167. I don't recall any reports on ones using the FExx6 drivers which would represent current availabily.
The most successful mets (based on user feedback) are probably the EL70 bipole met. The EL70 is ~the same $$$ as the similar size Fostex, and in particular, more suited to most SS amps.
dave
I don't know if it will help with your guidance to know that i am now planning on building the Pass F1J, which according to Pass is made for this typr of setup. I am assuming that you would suggest tube amps for most of these designs?
The F1J is an amp the Fostex should be very happy with. It also makes the FExx6 Mets much more interesting (in a positive way).
dave
dave
I have continued to read about these type of speakers and came across an interesting post. you willhave to look at the pic if you have not seen it before.
Based on his statements, I was looking at the Metronome chart and noticed that the bipole 126e and the 167e shared similar characteristics to his explanation. Is this an incorrect understadning of what he was saying? Should i be looking at premodeled response curves. If flat response is what i am after, then the 207e looks interesting.
Dave,
I have two questions for you.
1. When is your version of the Alpair 10.2eN going to be avaialble and do you have an appx price? How would i model this for the samhain 2 woden design?
2. If i were to go with the 166en, ow ould i model this newer driver for a metronome or one of the changs?
For the 166, i was thinnking about one of the F1-F3 series amps. Do you thinkone would work better than the others? For the Alpair 10.2eN, it would seem that the F3 would be best. What is your opinion.
I have two questions for you.
1. When is your version of the Alpair 10.2eN going to be avaialble and do you have an appx price? How would i model this for the samhain 2 woden design?
2. If i were to go with the 166en, ow ould i model this newer driver for a metronome or one of the changs?
For the 166, i was thinnking about one of the F1-F3 series amps. Do you thinkone would work better than the others? For the Alpair 10.2eN, it would seem that the F3 would be best. What is your opinion.
1/ Madisound will likely get their shipment early December, i have 20 already on order. With the time it takes on the break-in bench, treatment & holidays sometime in January
Price to should be $340/pr with a preprder discount.
Mark sent me a set of production prototypes so i will have the particulars of treatment already sorted out on that pair.
Scott (& i) are awaiting parameters for the new build and we will be adjusting our cabinets to accomodate.
The FExx6En are, in reality, close enuff to the old ones that the designs will not change. There is no FE166 Met in the table yet, one would need MJK's sections sheet to model it with an ML-TQWT as 1st approximation.
dave
Price to should be $340/pr with a preprder discount.
Mark sent me a set of production prototypes so i will have the particulars of treatment already sorted out on that pair.
Scott (& i) are awaiting parameters for the new build and we will be adjusting our cabinets to accomodate.
The FExx6En are, in reality, close enuff to the old ones that the designs will not change. There is no FE166 Met in the table yet, one would need MJK's sections sheet to model it with an ML-TQWT as 1st approximation.
dave
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