In perfect condition, measured and played for a few months.
EU, PayPal, 300Euro/pair
Used in Shamal project, see the measurements....:
https://pkaudio.webnode.cz/shamal/
EU, PayPal, 300Euro/pair
Used in Shamal project, see the measurements....:
https://pkaudio.webnode.cz/shamal/
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What a great project! Did you made a post about it?
How is the sound compared to your big speaker?
I also use and know a lot of the parts of your builds ... this is top notch stuff.
How is the sound compared to your big speaker?
I also use and know a lot of the parts of your builds ... this is top notch stuff.
Yes I did, here is the link:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/new-project-3way-22w-4851-mw16tx-8-t25b-in-wg.371620/
Shamal sounded almost perfect, unfortunately almost. Knowing sound and character of Scan Speak woofers I knew what to expect, and this was again the case where Scan Speak and SB/Satori are not a good match. I have to admit TX is better to my ears then P and actually it could make nice 2way with TX tweeter. But with scanspeak woofer it somehow makes lower midrange muddy, bass sounds very deep and slow. I spent ages measuring, making crossover adjustments etc. And I gave up, this was not the first time, but it was the last time I tried Satori and Scan Speak in one loudspeaker. Ellips-A, 21W 6600WG, ClassIllu, Illu3...they all had scanspeak woofers and sounded right, and I had the same expectations from Shamal. I decided to make adaptors and implement 15M Revelator, that is the plan for coming months.
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/new-project-3way-22w-4851-mw16tx-8-t25b-in-wg.371620/
Shamal sounded almost perfect, unfortunately almost. Knowing sound and character of Scan Speak woofers I knew what to expect, and this was again the case where Scan Speak and SB/Satori are not a good match. I have to admit TX is better to my ears then P and actually it could make nice 2way with TX tweeter. But with scanspeak woofer it somehow makes lower midrange muddy, bass sounds very deep and slow. I spent ages measuring, making crossover adjustments etc. And I gave up, this was not the first time, but it was the last time I tried Satori and Scan Speak in one loudspeaker. Ellips-A, 21W 6600WG, ClassIllu, Illu3...they all had scanspeak woofers and sounded right, and I had the same expectations from Shamal. I decided to make adaptors and implement 15M Revelator, that is the plan for coming months.
Read the whole thread - very interesting, thanks for sharing your work!
I experienced something similar with ScanSpeak 8" of my main speakers vs. SB Acoustics 10" Woofer - the SB Acoustics where more "tight", ScanSpeak more "black" but not as precise. Both where EQed with DSP but totally different position in the room, so i don't overestimate these personal results.
But in the new version of the speaker 2 SB34NRXL75-8 will do the job as low driver up to 450Hz - looking forward to that ;-)
I'm also just working on a MW19TX and Bliesma T25B + Wavegudie combination. Hoping for some good midrange ;-)
I experienced something similar with ScanSpeak 8" of my main speakers vs. SB Acoustics 10" Woofer - the SB Acoustics where more "tight", ScanSpeak more "black" but not as precise. Both where EQed with DSP but totally different position in the room, so i don't overestimate these personal results.
But in the new version of the speaker 2 SB34NRXL75-8 will do the job as low driver up to 450Hz - looking forward to that ;-)
I'm also just working on a MW19TX and Bliesma T25B + Wavegudie combination. Hoping for some good midrange ;-)
MW19TX and T25B (good you chose Be version) + WG looks like good combo. Also making T25B waveguided is good decision.
First prototype is in process - final version will also be CNC routet. A lot of similar points in our projects!
It's always good to see that other people come to similar solutions for the same problem - can't be totally wrong ;-)
It's always good to see that other people come to similar solutions for the same problem - can't be totally wrong ;-)
Did you already measure T25B off axis? I am curious what would be the impact of the lower part of the WG having steeper angle.
Me too! 🤓
But I'm bussy with an other project at the moment, can't wait to do these measurements but it will take a while. I'm not a friend of hard steps anywhere on the baffle cause I sometimes need to design speakers for very high frequencies and there you see every little bump.
So that's my compromise to get them closer together.
But I'm bussy with an other project at the moment, can't wait to do these measurements but it will take a while. I'm not a friend of hard steps anywhere on the baffle cause I sometimes need to design speakers for very high frequencies and there you see every little bump.
So that's my compromise to get them closer together.