poobah said:
Whacked, no. Obsessive-compulsive, most likely. Looking for a rollicking good time and a point of view not my own, female that is, most definitely yes. I very much need to get wet. In the end, we all do at times. I'm Sarek, these days. A bit too far gone.
KBK,
I understand completely your thoughts about the inflection of emotion into a computer screen. It has been a hard road for me. Many a time I have laughed my bleeping head off while typing something only to return and find that if not read in the same light as spoken, the inference can be quite the opposite of intention.
Hey, the world took more than a day to create so setting a day is difficult. Arbitrary or not, it's still nice to recognize a birthday don't ya think?
Happy birthday planet earth. Happy new year to it's occupants.
Off to the polar bear swim for me now. See you in a while.
I understand completely your thoughts about the inflection of emotion into a computer screen. It has been a hard road for me. Many a time I have laughed my bleeping head off while typing something only to return and find that if not read in the same light as spoken, the inference can be quite the opposite of intention.
KBK said:
Hey, the world took more than a day to create so setting a day is difficult. Arbitrary or not, it's still nice to recognize a birthday don't ya think?
Happy birthday planet earth. Happy new year to it's occupants.
Off to the polar bear swim for me now. See you in a while.
Oh BTW,
The first way to identify yourself as a baffoon, beyond any doubt, is to malign Newton in any way. Study the man and his achievements carefully. In the great scheme of things, I don't think anyone has really topped him... considering the distance he covered. Subsequent scientists could only extend his work... not rewrite it. Newton himself was quite aware of some of the inconsistencies and did not shrink from them.
Study something real for change... it can almost as fascinating...
😉
The first way to identify yourself as a baffoon, beyond any doubt, is to malign Newton in any way. Study the man and his achievements carefully. In the great scheme of things, I don't think anyone has really topped him... considering the distance he covered. Subsequent scientists could only extend his work... not rewrite it. Newton himself was quite aware of some of the inconsistencies and did not shrink from them.
Study something real for change... it can almost as fascinating...
😉
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Monkey wrench in gears.
I commented on the Laurence Gardner video about 20 pages back in this thread. He makes numerous claims without backing up a single one of them. Not only that, but he attempts to implicate scientists reporting some phenomena in Scientific American as being involved in some research related to monatomic gold which is NOT the case.
The audience at that presentation must have been told they were bit players in an SF film and should maintain order throughout the proceedings, or they were all on thorazine. If I had been there I would have called him on every point and probably been ejected within minutes.
If the powder in the bottle really is monatomic gold and it really does what he claims, why didn't it spontaneously implode and transport itself to a different dimension? Whay didn't it make the bottle levitate? A single demonstration lasting mere seconds would have been far more convincing than the that 1:21 video.
A quote from the Scottish janitor on the Simpsons seems appropriate here: "It's a great loooooooad of steamin' crrrrrap!"
I_F
KBK said:
I commented on the Laurence Gardner video about 20 pages back in this thread. He makes numerous claims without backing up a single one of them. Not only that, but he attempts to implicate scientists reporting some phenomena in Scientific American as being involved in some research related to monatomic gold which is NOT the case.
The audience at that presentation must have been told they were bit players in an SF film and should maintain order throughout the proceedings, or they were all on thorazine. If I had been there I would have called him on every point and probably been ejected within minutes.
If the powder in the bottle really is monatomic gold and it really does what he claims, why didn't it spontaneously implode and transport itself to a different dimension? Whay didn't it make the bottle levitate? A single demonstration lasting mere seconds would have been far more convincing than the that 1:21 video.
A quote from the Scottish janitor on the Simpsons seems appropriate here: "It's a great loooooooad of steamin' crrrrrap!"
I_F
Newton had people drawn and quartered, slowly, for over 25 years. The man may have been a scientific genus, that I agree. An alchemist too. And a good one. Except he failed. 😛
As for the drawing and quartering of people for approximately 20 years, only an animal would take pleasure in that. The indications were that he did. Not a good thing, even by the most base standard.
Not. A. Good. Human. Being.
From an aticle by Perer Bros, on Newton's involvement of the early years of the Bank of England. Newton apparently enjoyed this part of his job, the records seem to indicate. One of the world's great scientists, enjoying the actual slow drawing and quartering of people. As sole judge and jury of that situation, as well. (As the 'Master of the Mint'-out in disguise, tracking down and capturing counterfieters in seedy areas of the city of Londin and surroundng area)
I just found this out -- this morning.
As for IF, your comments: I have said here, investigate, if you will. Apparently, your investigations are limited, as you have stated. It becomes obvious that you will not investigate further. I have stated that I will continue to investigate. That you propose to rant about it (your seeming position and arguement), is your issue, not mine. You may very well consider my position as ranting. I don't know and don't want to put words in your mouth, in any case.
Other than that, there isn't much more to say at this point in time. We differ, is just about all there is to say about it. Maybe in the end, I may find that someone it attempting to pull on my pee-pee, or I'll be told it is rain washing down my back. But I will continue to investigate, at this point in time. You snooze, you loose, You get exactly what you put out, No pain no gain, no risk, no glory, etc. I've been burned before, but because I consistently risk myself, in the end, I eventually win, whatever that means.
You know the drill.
As for the drawing and quartering of people for approximately 20 years, only an animal would take pleasure in that. The indications were that he did. Not a good thing, even by the most base standard.
Not. A. Good. Human. Being.
From an aticle by Perer Bros, on Newton's involvement of the early years of the Bank of England. Newton apparently enjoyed this part of his job, the records seem to indicate. One of the world's great scientists, enjoying the actual slow drawing and quartering of people. As sole judge and jury of that situation, as well. (As the 'Master of the Mint'-out in disguise, tracking down and capturing counterfieters in seedy areas of the city of Londin and surroundng area)
I just found this out -- this morning.
As for IF, your comments: I have said here, investigate, if you will. Apparently, your investigations are limited, as you have stated. It becomes obvious that you will not investigate further. I have stated that I will continue to investigate. That you propose to rant about it (your seeming position and arguement), is your issue, not mine. You may very well consider my position as ranting. I don't know and don't want to put words in your mouth, in any case.
Other than that, there isn't much more to say at this point in time. We differ, is just about all there is to say about it. Maybe in the end, I may find that someone it attempting to pull on my pee-pee, or I'll be told it is rain washing down my back. But I will continue to investigate, at this point in time. You snooze, you loose, You get exactly what you put out, No pain no gain, no risk, no glory, etc. I've been burned before, but because I consistently risk myself, in the end, I eventually win, whatever that means.
You know the drill.
KBK,
before you got into all this fringe science stuff, did you ever study any "mainstream" science? To what level? How about mathematics? Any calculus?
Thanks,
I_F
before you got into all this fringe science stuff, did you ever study any "mainstream" science? To what level? How about mathematics? Any calculus?
Thanks,
I_F
Two years of college calculus. About 4 years of college, altogether. No degree. Missing the 'resume course' 1 credit. 😛 couldn't be bothered to finish it. Electronics technology.
I love too many subjects to bother specializing. In grade school, I'd get bored and for one semester, get the highest marks in the class for a given subject..and then nearly fail it the next semester/year. On to the next thing. Ace that one, yes. Next subject!
In grade 4, for example, Mrs. Dunn forced me to write with one hand only,as I was (she caught me and gave me grief!) finishing the writing work on about 1/3 the time of anyone else, as I was using both hands. Ambidexterous. My weak hand was my left, so I chose my left hand, and have been largely left handed ever since. Nearly failed grade 5 english, writing skills and understanding was terrible. Long story. They held me back from recess and forced me into a small closet to try and use a typewriter. I got pissed. (actually, I was a bit shell shocked, one family move too many)
Right beside my classroom, was the 'lost& found' bin. In it was a grade 8 english book, I picked it up and took it home. By the end of the semester I was reading and writing at a grade 8+ level. Don't **** me off!
You see, it has to be difficult enough for me to find interseting. Then I go for it. The more difficult but 'still within the realm of the possible' the subject, the more intriguing I find it. If someone in science has been there before, then I'm past it. I'll take what they know and run with it. I won't waste my time with roads that have been travelled.
Like this wierd thing about never using a schematic before. Only in the past few years, now that I feel I know enough about the 'feel' of audio and it's components, will I ALLOW myself to use a schematic. One reason is now I feel I know the subject well enough, and I've got bigger puzzles to try and master.
As for science: I go for theory of the puzzle pieces over the puzzle pieces themselves. Same-same. it's more difficult but it allows for the real understanding of the puzzle's very nature. Mistakes can be made, and need be accounted for, and it can get swimmy.
But in the end, I like it, as it results in a very rewarding feeling to a have done it cold. It's not a snub of others, but I like a real challenge. An impossible one is just-about-right. For me, nothing else will do.
I love too many subjects to bother specializing. In grade school, I'd get bored and for one semester, get the highest marks in the class for a given subject..and then nearly fail it the next semester/year. On to the next thing. Ace that one, yes. Next subject!
In grade 4, for example, Mrs. Dunn forced me to write with one hand only,as I was (she caught me and gave me grief!) finishing the writing work on about 1/3 the time of anyone else, as I was using both hands. Ambidexterous. My weak hand was my left, so I chose my left hand, and have been largely left handed ever since. Nearly failed grade 5 english, writing skills and understanding was terrible. Long story. They held me back from recess and forced me into a small closet to try and use a typewriter. I got pissed. (actually, I was a bit shell shocked, one family move too many)
Right beside my classroom, was the 'lost& found' bin. In it was a grade 8 english book, I picked it up and took it home. By the end of the semester I was reading and writing at a grade 8+ level. Don't **** me off!
You see, it has to be difficult enough for me to find interseting. Then I go for it. The more difficult but 'still within the realm of the possible' the subject, the more intriguing I find it. If someone in science has been there before, then I'm past it. I'll take what they know and run with it. I won't waste my time with roads that have been travelled.
Like this wierd thing about never using a schematic before. Only in the past few years, now that I feel I know enough about the 'feel' of audio and it's components, will I ALLOW myself to use a schematic. One reason is now I feel I know the subject well enough, and I've got bigger puzzles to try and master.
As for science: I go for theory of the puzzle pieces over the puzzle pieces themselves. Same-same. it's more difficult but it allows for the real understanding of the puzzle's very nature. Mistakes can be made, and need be accounted for, and it can get swimmy.
But in the end, I like it, as it results in a very rewarding feeling to a have done it cold. It's not a snub of others, but I like a real challenge. An impossible one is just-about-right. For me, nothing else will do.
There are different ways of doing things, Audio-kraut. Note I do not denigrate yours. I respect your opinion, after all, it is the work of a person's life. Like anyone else. Even the charlatans (or seeming charlatans) sometimes have pearls of wisdom.
I was reading around on horns and rotary woofers and such yesterday when I dropped across some info on the cells communicating stuff (referenced a few pages back)..
Anyways, on page 6 of 40 of this PDF is the reference I noticed.
http://newenergytimes.com/Library/2005JonesR-UnconventionalScience.pdf
PDF references minstry of defense as its source.
Is it real? Couldn't tell you, but i'll definately agree there are things out there that we seem to have trouble viewing or understanding.
Anyways, on page 6 of 40 of this PDF is the reference I noticed.
http://newenergytimes.com/Library/2005JonesR-UnconventionalScience.pdf
PDF references minstry of defense as its source.
Is it real? Couldn't tell you, but i'll definately agree there are things out there that we seem to have trouble viewing or understanding.
yeah its also referenced to
Psychoenergitic Systems 1(3) p141
K, I wouldn't loose any sleep over the naysayers.
You have to ask yourself what would drive the same old crowd, who just so happen to have alot in common. They are a bit like children telling their mom "the cat did it" trying their best to believe themselves, but unable to "see" the whole situation like mommy, are unable to pull it off.
Maybe if they are lucky, someday they will at least believe there is a door, but they probably won't go looking for it.
You have yourself a lovely eye-opening new year.
Psychoenergitic Systems 1(3) p141
K, I wouldn't loose any sleep over the naysayers.
You have to ask yourself what would drive the same old crowd, who just so happen to have alot in common. They are a bit like children telling their mom "the cat did it" trying their best to believe themselves, but unable to "see" the whole situation like mommy, are unable to pull it off.
Maybe if they are lucky, someday they will at least believe there is a door, but they probably won't go looking for it.
You have yourself a lovely eye-opening new year.
But did "mommy" see everything as well or just from a different perspective?
Point is no one point of view is ever the only correct one.
Point is no one point of view is ever the only correct one.
"Since everyone "prefers" one circuit over the others, there are people in society who are easily recognizable as Narcissists (first circuit robots), Emotionalists (second circuit robots), Rationalists (third circuit robots) and Moralists (fourth circuit robots).
Rationalist robots, like the other robots, may be totally mechanized or may have some slight flexability, or "freedom" built into their circuitary. The totally robotized make up the vast horde of the Fundamentalist wing of the Materialist church and the other True Believers in the scientific paradigms of the 1968, 1958, 1948 or whenever their nervous system stopped taking new imprints.
These are the people who are perpetually frightened and dismayed by the large portion of human behaviour mediated through Circuit II mammalian politics. They think that because this territorial-emotional ("patriotic") behaviour is not rational, it should not exist. They accept Darwin as Dogma, but are nervous about "Darwinism" (because it accepts that mammalian politics as an Evolutionary Strategy that has worked thus far) and are repulsed by the data of ethology, genetics and sociobiology. They don't like the rest of the human race much, because it is not guided by their favourite circuit, and they are uneasily aware that the rest of the human race does'nt like them much.
These Rationalist robots are also very uncomfortable with the newer circuits -- and some of them spend most most of their lives writing articles and books devoted to "proving" that the newer circuits do not exist and that all scientists who recorded the behaviour of these newer circuits are liars, fools bunglers, charlatans or some manner of Damed Heretics.
Like the Emotional Robot, the Moralistic robot, the Narcissist robot etc., the Rationalist robot cannot be "argued" out of his narrow reality tunnel. We can only emphasize, one more time, that each and every reality tunnel created by a domesticated primate brain is a finite cross- section of that brains personal history; and each such finite reality-tunnel is as "personalized" as the music of Bach or Beethoven, the paintings of Rembrandt or Picasso, the novels of Joyce or Raymond Chandler, the comedy of the 3 Stooges or Monty Python, the religions of the Roman Catholicism or Zen Buddhism, the politics of Libertarianism or the I.R.A., the architecture of St.Peters or Disneyland ...
And each of the art-works seems like "reality" to the people who created them and live in them. Rationalism is just another such group art-work, a little less tolerant than most, a little more useful to technologists than any other, a little stupid when it can no longer transcend the last paradigm it has created.
The totally robotized Rationalist, the one whose nervous system has stopped growing entirely, can be recognized by two signs:
He or she is constantly trying to prove that much of the daily experience of the rest of humanity is "delusion","hallucination","group hallucination","mass hallucination","mere coincidence","sheer coincidence" or "sloppy research".
And he or she never thinks that any of his or her own experience would fit any of those categories."
Prometheus Rising - Robert Anton Wilson
As I said one of my favourite books. Well worth seeking out and reading if you really want to understand whats going on with your head.
Unfortunately for us rationalist (yes I do count myself as one), it seems that the Rationalist way of doing things can only decline. This is because of a large range of factors;
1- The increasing exposure of people to other realities via such mediums as TV and the Internet.
2- The increase in international travel.
3- The increase in exposure of people to psychedelic drugs and internet porn( helps liberate them from their own reality tunnel).
4- The seemingly exponential rise of people having "mystical"/"close encounter" experiences which necessities them constructing a new reality which accounts for the information their senses have presented to them.
5- The increasing acceptace of the everyday reality of quantum mechanics (its not just about little things).
All uncomfortable stuff I am certain, but evolution waits for no man.
Shoog
Rationalist robots, like the other robots, may be totally mechanized or may have some slight flexability, or "freedom" built into their circuitary. The totally robotized make up the vast horde of the Fundamentalist wing of the Materialist church and the other True Believers in the scientific paradigms of the 1968, 1958, 1948 or whenever their nervous system stopped taking new imprints.
These are the people who are perpetually frightened and dismayed by the large portion of human behaviour mediated through Circuit II mammalian politics. They think that because this territorial-emotional ("patriotic") behaviour is not rational, it should not exist. They accept Darwin as Dogma, but are nervous about "Darwinism" (because it accepts that mammalian politics as an Evolutionary Strategy that has worked thus far) and are repulsed by the data of ethology, genetics and sociobiology. They don't like the rest of the human race much, because it is not guided by their favourite circuit, and they are uneasily aware that the rest of the human race does'nt like them much.
These Rationalist robots are also very uncomfortable with the newer circuits -- and some of them spend most most of their lives writing articles and books devoted to "proving" that the newer circuits do not exist and that all scientists who recorded the behaviour of these newer circuits are liars, fools bunglers, charlatans or some manner of Damed Heretics.
Like the Emotional Robot, the Moralistic robot, the Narcissist robot etc., the Rationalist robot cannot be "argued" out of his narrow reality tunnel. We can only emphasize, one more time, that each and every reality tunnel created by a domesticated primate brain is a finite cross- section of that brains personal history; and each such finite reality-tunnel is as "personalized" as the music of Bach or Beethoven, the paintings of Rembrandt or Picasso, the novels of Joyce or Raymond Chandler, the comedy of the 3 Stooges or Monty Python, the religions of the Roman Catholicism or Zen Buddhism, the politics of Libertarianism or the I.R.A., the architecture of St.Peters or Disneyland ...
And each of the art-works seems like "reality" to the people who created them and live in them. Rationalism is just another such group art-work, a little less tolerant than most, a little more useful to technologists than any other, a little stupid when it can no longer transcend the last paradigm it has created.
The totally robotized Rationalist, the one whose nervous system has stopped growing entirely, can be recognized by two signs:
He or she is constantly trying to prove that much of the daily experience of the rest of humanity is "delusion","hallucination","group hallucination","mass hallucination","mere coincidence","sheer coincidence" or "sloppy research".
And he or she never thinks that any of his or her own experience would fit any of those categories."
Prometheus Rising - Robert Anton Wilson
As I said one of my favourite books. Well worth seeking out and reading if you really want to understand whats going on with your head.
Unfortunately for us rationalist (yes I do count myself as one), it seems that the Rationalist way of doing things can only decline. This is because of a large range of factors;
1- The increasing exposure of people to other realities via such mediums as TV and the Internet.
2- The increase in international travel.
3- The increase in exposure of people to psychedelic drugs and internet porn( helps liberate them from their own reality tunnel).
4- The seemingly exponential rise of people having "mystical"/"close encounter" experiences which necessities them constructing a new reality which accounts for the information their senses have presented to them.
5- The increasing acceptace of the everyday reality of quantum mechanics (its not just about little things).
All uncomfortable stuff I am certain, but evolution waits for no man.
Shoog
I wouldn't put much faith in "minstry of defense." Uri Geller was employed by some American government of sort.
Everybody gets suckered. The will to belief is stronger than the will to disbelief. It's human nature.
There might be more out there than meets the eye. But so far we haven't seen any. I take Occam for $500.
A classic fraud many people believe in is that of chiropractics.
In 1895 Daniel David Palmer discovered that a deaf janitor had a lump on his back. Palmer was convinced that the deafness and the lump were related. After reportedly having healed the janitor, Palmer had discovered chiropractic.
Before going chiropractic, Palmer was a magnetic healer. The only difference between magnetic healing and chiropractic is that cracking bones sometimes does help. Even real doctors "crack bones," fixing a dislocated shoulder and whatnot. But it has nothing to do with subluxation or any other chiropractic mumbo-jumbo.
A more recent fraud is the theory of everything.
Quantum physics changes everything. The Newtonian mechanism is out. 2000 yrs of western civilization amounts to nothing at all. Suddenly science has more questions than answers.
Many weak-minded turned to religion for comfort (what science cannot explain, creationism can). A few other weak-minded created the theory of everything. But most weak-minded simply put their collective heads in the sand. Textbooks from grade- to high-school simply pretend quantum physics never happened. "...and then Einstein presented the theory of relativity. End of history." The latter was no stretch by any means. "Modernism" implies the end of history. It's no coincidence that retro and nostalgia emerged with the postmodernism (which shuld more accurately be called hypermodernism) in the mid 1970s. With no future, you can only look to the past.
That, of course, leaves out a lot of crackpots, like the ones that spit fact in the face and insist that Einstein was a Christian. But I cannot account for every idiot living.
As for rationalism, who was ever more rational than Hitler? Rational means to take optimal action based on what you know and want. To do the opposite would be irrational. Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were other proud rationalists. Reason is the enemy of the rational.
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."--Gautma Buddha
Everybody gets suckered. The will to belief is stronger than the will to disbelief. It's human nature.
There might be more out there than meets the eye. But so far we haven't seen any. I take Occam for $500.
A classic fraud many people believe in is that of chiropractics.
In 1895 Daniel David Palmer discovered that a deaf janitor had a lump on his back. Palmer was convinced that the deafness and the lump were related. After reportedly having healed the janitor, Palmer had discovered chiropractic.
Before going chiropractic, Palmer was a magnetic healer. The only difference between magnetic healing and chiropractic is that cracking bones sometimes does help. Even real doctors "crack bones," fixing a dislocated shoulder and whatnot. But it has nothing to do with subluxation or any other chiropractic mumbo-jumbo.
A more recent fraud is the theory of everything.
Quantum physics changes everything. The Newtonian mechanism is out. 2000 yrs of western civilization amounts to nothing at all. Suddenly science has more questions than answers.
Many weak-minded turned to religion for comfort (what science cannot explain, creationism can). A few other weak-minded created the theory of everything. But most weak-minded simply put their collective heads in the sand. Textbooks from grade- to high-school simply pretend quantum physics never happened. "...and then Einstein presented the theory of relativity. End of history." The latter was no stretch by any means. "Modernism" implies the end of history. It's no coincidence that retro and nostalgia emerged with the postmodernism (which shuld more accurately be called hypermodernism) in the mid 1970s. With no future, you can only look to the past.
That, of course, leaves out a lot of crackpots, like the ones that spit fact in the face and insist that Einstein was a Christian. But I cannot account for every idiot living.
As for rationalism, who was ever more rational than Hitler? Rational means to take optimal action based on what you know and want. To do the opposite would be irrational. Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were other proud rationalists. Reason is the enemy of the rational.
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."--Gautma Buddha
You sir have never experienced shiatsu.
I have been medicaly disabled to the extent that the insurance had to pay for my house... they don't leave anything to chance.
In anyway it is an extremely painfull condition.
One night I went out with my wife so she could go danceing etc in a club.
I saw this guy. wow what a weird statement (i'm a closet homophobe). I don't want to go into it more but anyway I saw something. later in the evening he walked up to me and said "you are in pain" or something to that effect "stand up".
I did, he placed one arm infront of my hips and one behind, and nudged his arms towards each other ever so gently (the moment is forever caught in my memory). there was only the slightest presure, but the next moment it felt like I could see myself from outside, there was a crisp green light all around me, being most dense in the area around his arms, and it just kept flooding towards my head and feet. It may have lasted 10 seconds, felt like an eternity. When he let go of me, I was able to walk, dance, run, you name it. Allthough I am not healed, I have been makeing steady recovery ever since that day, and have in about 10 years not experienced the pain I had up to that point, which was excruciating to the point were I only wanted to die.
The recal is so strong, I am shakeing like a leaf as I type this, and tears are streaming for some weird reason...
Now, I can not give you this experience, nor do I wish it on you.
But I can share it in the spirrit of love. There are things that are not accesible to everyone (i think, maybe partly of our own choice). But they sure are there!!! no if and or buts.
I have been medicaly disabled to the extent that the insurance had to pay for my house... they don't leave anything to chance.
In anyway it is an extremely painfull condition.
One night I went out with my wife so she could go danceing etc in a club.
I saw this guy. wow what a weird statement (i'm a closet homophobe). I don't want to go into it more but anyway I saw something. later in the evening he walked up to me and said "you are in pain" or something to that effect "stand up".
I did, he placed one arm infront of my hips and one behind, and nudged his arms towards each other ever so gently (the moment is forever caught in my memory). there was only the slightest presure, but the next moment it felt like I could see myself from outside, there was a crisp green light all around me, being most dense in the area around his arms, and it just kept flooding towards my head and feet. It may have lasted 10 seconds, felt like an eternity. When he let go of me, I was able to walk, dance, run, you name it. Allthough I am not healed, I have been makeing steady recovery ever since that day, and have in about 10 years not experienced the pain I had up to that point, which was excruciating to the point were I only wanted to die.
The recal is so strong, I am shakeing like a leaf as I type this, and tears are streaming for some weird reason...
Now, I can not give you this experience, nor do I wish it on you.
But I can share it in the spirrit of love. There are things that are not accesible to everyone (i think, maybe partly of our own choice). But they sure are there!!! no if and or buts.
I do not know shiatsu. Thus I cannot speak for its validity.
I have illnesses in my family (both parents dead, for example) and would never belittle anything relating to being ill.
Please do not read into my post what I did not write.
"Rational" tends to get to people. I have nothing against the rational as long as it's applied right. Applying the Newtonian mechanism on social engineering, as has been proven time and again, is not the right thing.
I have illnesses in my family (both parents dead, for example) and would never belittle anything relating to being ill.
Please do not read into my post what I did not write.
"Rational" tends to get to people. I have nothing against the rational as long as it's applied right. Applying the Newtonian mechanism on social engineering, as has been proven time and again, is not the right thing.
My wife uses chiropractics and it produces definate positive physical benefits. I can comment no more than that.
Shoog
Shoog
Assuming chiropractics is referencing the release of tension on muscles thus nerve/tissue/cartilage/bone compression, i've no reason to see why it would be an untruth...
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