Hello bro. Please listen to my prototype Helix AG 280z Angular Speaker with AN Super 8. It's only a simple video but you can already hear the holographic sound and deep bass with my bookshelf speaker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtHpq11mu2s
Note: Please use a headphone or powered computer speaker to appreciate the sound.
So, to say that the specs are fictitious is subjective. For me, it all depends on the speaker box and the wire used. I used magnet wire gauge 12 internal wiring and speaker cables. I am happy and planning to build a 2.8 series 1 twin port speaker box from CSA for another set up of AN Super 8.
AN Super 8 can really sing and rock, if the speaker cabinet is proper or compatible, as per experience.🙂
Bro?
Nonsense. If a manufacturer publishes something which is clearly contradicted by every independant test to date, that is a fairly clear indicator their claims are not to be trusted. Heck, the S8AlNiCo specs. published on the site are self-contradictory for pity's sake.
Regarding the necessity of considering room, cabinet, amplifier & even the wire parameters, if you'd bothered to read this thread which you've dug up, you might have noticed that I was one of the people who was continually pointing this out, at considerable length.
Thank you for the youtube video, but I'm afraid it's utterly valueless for assessing the abilities of any speaker, other than the probability that they are making some form of noise. You can't assess a system 2nd hand.
Nonsense. If a manufacturer publishes something which is clearly contradicted by every independant test to date, that is a fairly clear indicator their claims are not to be trusted. Heck, the S8AlNiCo specs. published on the site are self-contradictory for pity's sake.
Regarding the necessity of considering room, cabinet, amplifier & even the wire parameters, if you'd bothered to read this thread which you've dug up, you might have noticed that I was one of the people who was continually pointing this out, at considerable length.
Thank you for the youtube video, but I'm afraid it's utterly valueless for assessing the abilities of any speaker, other than the probability that they are making some form of noise. You can't assess a system 2nd hand.
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Thanks for the info. It's alright. It's just my opinion and based on my experience. Important thing is, we find something that will makes us happy in audio world. If you are satisfied with your audio toy, I am happy for you. I am also happy and in love with mine.
Peace!🙂
But if we can learn from other's experiences and avoid those known pitfalls, than it's much better, and just what diy forums are for.
I recently EnABL'd a pair of AN Super 8 drivers. I was struck by how much downward dynamics they showed, brand new, out of the box. I was also struck by how badly they shrieked at 9 K, 12 K and the rising top end above 15 K. They have two Raleigh wave zones and both are very active and are the reasons for the shrieks. These were the non alnico drivers.
Once controlled the driver is very very good, right up between the EnABL'd Lowther PM6A and Fostex F 200 A and an almost even mix of Lowther dynamics and Fostex technical completeness. Also the very first phase plug I have found nothing wrong with. I cannot compare them to the Fostex 206 as I have never heard that driver not treated it's maladies, whatever they may be. However, the two drivers mentioned above are at the top of my list of musically useful drivers.
Bud
Once controlled the driver is very very good, right up between the EnABL'd Lowther PM6A and Fostex F 200 A and an almost even mix of Lowther dynamics and Fostex technical completeness. Also the very first phase plug I have found nothing wrong with. I cannot compare them to the Fostex 206 as I have never heard that driver not treated it's maladies, whatever they may be. However, the two drivers mentioned above are at the top of my list of musically useful drivers.
Bud
Hello there. Sorry, so far I never experienced that with AN Super 8. Yes, right out from the box,it's quite harsh. But after the breaking in period, it is sweet and warm. The driver is greatly affected by the choice of internal wire used and cabinet design. So, I make sure I use the proper materials that will make the speaker sounds better than I expected. You can watch the video I posted recently, to have an idea how it sounds. Actually, it is much better in actual listening in small and medium size room (in Helix AG 280z bookshelf box). So maybe, AN Super 8 is made for my taste because I love it. Or maybe, I am one of those other people who love Audio Nirvana at first sight.🙂
In addition to this, I still use my clean ears for audio testing. Though, I use specifications as reference, but still listening test is my final action to conclude that the speaker performs well.
In addition to this, I still use my clean ears for audio testing. Though, I use specifications as reference, but still listening test is my final action to conclude that the speaker performs well.
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I have the AN 8s and I think they are great. It made a huge difference to the sound when I connected a Class A single-ended tube amp, while earlier I was using a Class AB SS amp. The reasons have been well documented in the thread. The bass is true, sweet midrange and extended treble. My hearing is pretty sound and I don't think I need a tweeter or a super tweeter.
Maybe the Fostexes are better. The Lowthers better be better. Maybe the AN specs are tosh. The truth though is that the ANs are superb value for money at any price point. If you want a glimpse of the high-end for not a lot of money, then the ANs must be at the top of your shopping list.
Maybe the Fostexes are better. The Lowthers better be better. Maybe the AN specs are tosh. The truth though is that the ANs are superb value for money at any price point. If you want a glimpse of the high-end for not a lot of money, then the ANs must be at the top of your shopping list.
Congratulations! For you are one of the people who have same impression like mine with Audio Nirvana. Important thing in audio is we are enjoying the fruits of our system. I gave Audio Nirvana a chance, and I never regret buying it and using it for good. I just use the proper wires and cabinet design to unleashed its sweetness and natural sound. Enjoy to the max.🙂
I don't know about the Fostex but the AN (I own AN super10) works great in a front and back loaded horn, in my case 2:3 reduced Autograph replica:
I am tired of advising this...natural perceived frequency response...front and back horn help matching the high sensitivity to HF...maybe I'll record some music and post on you tube...if I have time...
Cheers,
M
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I am tired of advising this...natural perceived frequency response...front and back horn help matching the high sensitivity to HF...maybe I'll record some music and post on you tube...if I have time...
Cheers,
M
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I agree with you with that. Well, nice project. Yes please upload your video in You Tube. I compared other You Tube videos regarding various high end speakers with mine. So far and in my own ears, AN is the best in performing true music. Truth hurts but really it surpassed some of High End speakers which I will not mention anymore. Try searching in You Tube and you'll hear the difference even if they use nice digi cam.I don't know about the Fostex but the AN (I own AN super10) works great in a front and back loaded horn, in my case 2:3 reduced Autograph replica:
I am tired of advising this...natural perceived frequency response...front and back horn help matching the high sensitivity to HF...maybe I'll record some music and post on you tube...if I have time...
Cheers,
M
Maybe I got crazy with Audio Nirvana, the reason why I spoke like David Dicks' sales agent/telemarketer.
Re: Audio Nirvana Super 8 in Phono
Hello Max. I just want to share my You Tube video of AN Super 8 in a simple DD Turntable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnveEW-xso0
Thanks for viewing.🙂
Hello Max. I just want to share my You Tube video of AN Super 8 in a simple DD Turntable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnveEW-xso0
Thanks for viewing.🙂
Truth hurts? You're comparing sound quality via youtube videos? 😱 Er, right. OK. If that's what makes you happy. But I wouldn't read too much into it. If you do that, it basically means you're trying to compare a system playing an unknown CD / LP / whatever that has been recorded in an unknown way, in an unknown room, with an unknown acoustic, with unknown components further up the chain, using God knows what microphone
Er, you do realise who you're talking to there, right? Bud is a/ rather well-known as a driver / system tweaker, and b/ even better known for the output transformers that he produces as his day-job, which are regarded as amongst the best in the business. I believe he knows a trifle about wire characteristics, and he might even be aware that different cabinets work in different ways. 😉 😛 😀
Personally, I've nothing against the AN drivers, although their published spec. sheets have shown to be of questionable accuracy at best. The units I've heard of theirs have been reasonable sonically for what they are, although I have a suspicion either QC or tolerances aren't as tight as some others, and they wouldn't be my first choice were I in the market for a 6 1/2in or 8in unit (not a whole lot of exact alternatives of course in the larger sizes of course). YMMV as always.
A good compound horn can be very effective, as a BLH is only really useable up to the mass corner of a driver, a BR not even that high, & if the driver has an additional rise in its FR above this, it's an excellent way of balancing things out. I like them.
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Not a problem... it makes me happy even more in actual listening test. I just use my ears to say if the system is good in actual listening and vice versa. I don't want to be too much technical in assessing a good audio equipment. In the end, you will use your bare ears to appreciate music and not any technical informations, to say that the speaker sounds good. We can only use technical info as reference. Still, our ears will be the one to judge which is good or bad. A pair of good ears are enough. Just give us the benefit of the doubt to be happy in audio hobby.🙂
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Who isn't (giving benefit of the doubt)? You say you enjoy your speakers, which is an evident truth, & I can't imagine anyone disputing that.
For myself, all I have done since this thread came alive again is point out a few facts in response to queries or suggestions raised. 1/ AN's claimed driver specs. have to date rarely proven very accurate in independent tests, 2/ the AlNiCo AN8in is not an especially good candidate for a BLH unless size is not an issue, and 3/ IMO, Youtube videos are utterly useless in assessing the capabilities of someone else's system. That's it. Nothing else. None of those have got anything to do with whether or not the AN drivers sound any good or whether somebody enjoys their setup etc.
For myself, all I have done since this thread came alive again is point out a few facts in response to queries or suggestions raised. 1/ AN's claimed driver specs. have to date rarely proven very accurate in independent tests, 2/ the AlNiCo AN8in is not an especially good candidate for a BLH unless size is not an issue, and 3/ IMO, Youtube videos are utterly useless in assessing the capabilities of someone else's system. That's it. Nothing else. None of those have got anything to do with whether or not the AN drivers sound any good or whether somebody enjoys their setup etc.
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Hmmm...comparing speakers via youtube? Reminds me a bit of my 
girlfriend of greenager days who recorded music by placing her dad´s dictaphone in front of the radio. Can´t do much damage to Britney S, but anyone doing it to Loreena McKennit - .
girlfriend of greenager days who recorded music by placing her dad´s dictaphone in front of the radio. Can´t do much damage to Britney S, but anyone doing it to Loreena McKennit - .
Actually there's nothing wrong on comparing speakers with YouTube videos. The more artifacts you hear, the better the system is 😀
You are right. If there´s no difference between youtube and the original recording on your HiFi system...oh boy.
Well, as long as our audio system makes us happy,and we know what we want to hear in a system, is truly a blessing.
Peace to all.🙂
Peace to all.🙂
I was recently given a pair of FE207s and a pair of AN Super 8 Cast Frame, but have yet to build anything for them.
Trying to get back into the routine of school and trying to manage homework and woodwork. I'll definitely report my findings once I get some work done.
Josh
Trying to get back into the routine of school and trying to manage homework and woodwork. I'll definitely report my findings once I get some work done.
Josh
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