Get real.
Everyone knows cardboard beats foam core...
agreed.
anyone whom ever gave any intelligent thought,
(or had too much time on their hands)
knows that a pulsating cube,
is the correct shape for an accurate transducer.
same shape as the room your sitting in.
' Enclosure Assisted Bass™ '
So 6 voicecoils in parallel pushing on 6 sides of a cube is the best omnipole? They sell transducer coils that mount to any flat surface. Maybe make a 6 sided foam core cube with 6 of these things? How to mount it to a floor wall, etc? Has to come tnrough vertex....
Interesting...
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Interesting...
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Actually I"m using floor underlayment remnainents from when the water heater failed (a sad story for another thread 😱) and one full 4x8 sheet from that episode. 24" will provide a little longer horn so I'll take your advise and size accordingly.
I have been watching this thread with great interest. I was wondering how the HiBM65C20F-8 would perform in this enclosure. I plan to buy a couple of the Hi Wave drivers for a line array.
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If you made the mini Cornucopya from foam core facers you will have several 10 x 20 inch remnants. What to do with them? I have been meaning to make a little stereo mp3 player unit and plan to use some cheap pc speakers and amplifier but wanted a transmission line to boost the bass output. Based on remnants that I had, I came up with an A-frame shaped enclosure. There are two TL's each 40 in long (or 1 m), which gives a tuning freq of 85 Hz. The TL will be a little odd in that due to how it is folded using triangular divider channels, the cross sectional area contracts, expands, contracts, and expands before exiting at the front facing terminus. There is no real design here with regards to optimizing the TL as it was based purely on whatever I have left over in foam core remnants. However, I will place the driver at the 1/3 distance from the closed end. The speakers I will be using are the $6.99 specials from Microcenter ('Inland' brand http://www.microcenter.com/product/220684/Pro_Sound_2000_Stereo_Speakers) which claim to have a 3.6 watts per channel amp and oblong shaped 2 in x 3.5 in fullrange drivers. Here is what I managed to build in 1 hour this morning. Now I need to find some time to dismantle the speakers to strip out drivers and amp. I plan to mount the amp internally so that the whole thing will be self contained. I actually like how the design came out, it looks clean and modern, and because it is triangular, very stiff and needed no bracing. The tilt on the front baffle allows the driver to aim up a little bit which is good for a tabletop speaker. Oh, one more thing.... Now that I know how to record decent sound clips, I plan on recording a test track with original speakers as is from factory at same setting and distance. Then I will record the same with the new design and we will hear if the TL box improves the sound?
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According to Cal it makes a big difference how much.
Yes, too little and it sounds very boomy. Too much and it might as well not be a horn. I ended up with none in the throats but I made a cup of rockwool for the chamber. Packed quite tight.
Those speakers from Microcenter are really bad once I took them apart. The drivers are cheesy with no real foam surround just pleated self paper from the cone, and the amp is already giving intermittent sound now that I pulled it out, bad pot on vol knob, and the chip is a TEA2035b which only 2.3 w into 4 ohms at 9 v power supply according to spec sheet. So the 3.6 w rating was a lie - what do you expect from bottom of the barrel speakers? I am just so disappointed in these compared to Logitech s120's which are only a few dollars more. I am rethinking what to put in this cabinet now that I like the shape so much.
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Yes, too little and it sounds very boomy. Too much and it might as well not be a horn. I ended up with none in the throats but I made a cup of rockwool for the chamber. Packed quite tight.
Cal,
Did you ever try adding the stuffing into the mouths of the horns?
The drivers are cheesy with no real foam surround just pleated self paper from the cone
Actually for paper cone this is normal, foam surround is nothing good for sound.
For amp you can use T-amp board, cheapest and good quality is what Arjen sell;
MKLL Tripath TA2024 Fully Finished Tested PCB 2X15WATT | eBay
You need add only pot and 1-2A 12V addapter, switch mode work good enough for this amp.
Cal,
Did you ever try adding the stuffing into the mouths of the horns?
No. When the third try in the chamber worked, I left well enough alone.
I might give the paper surround drivers a try then. I can bypass the bad pot and set to max vol.
Got the board (20x30' $4 walmart), thinking of a gameplan now.
How about acrylic latex bathroom adhesive? Rereading I saw it mentioned, did it work well?
Also, how deep should I be making my cab? And can I still fit this in a 20" scale?
Fs: 67 hz
Sd: 57 cm^2
http://meniscusaudio.com/images/CSS-FR125-data-v3s.pdf
How about acrylic latex bathroom adhesive? Rereading I saw it mentioned, did it work well?
Also, how deep should I be making my cab? And can I still fit this in a 20" scale?
Fs: 67 hz
Sd: 57 cm^2
http://meniscusaudio.com/images/CSS-FR125-data-v3s.pdf
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You need the inherent tacky quality of the hot glue to hold the spiral in place as you are forming it.
That latex caulking could work but takes long to dry. Try Gorilla glue. I used hot melt to tack and white pva glue to bond. I think so far the glues used include: hot melt, pva (white and yellow), gorilla glue, liquid nails.
The biggest roadblock is getting the channels cut. Use a razor and straight edge - makes nice clean straight cuts. Once you have that and the design drawn on the board it goes very fast. The slowest step is the final bond of the cap. If use pva, takes overnight and with gorilla glue takes 20 minutes, or if you are sporty, hot melt the top in pieces.
The biggest roadblock is getting the channels cut. Use a razor and straight edge - makes nice clean straight cuts. Once you have that and the design drawn on the board it goes very fast. The slowest step is the final bond of the cap. If use pva, takes overnight and with gorilla glue takes 20 minutes, or if you are sporty, hot melt the top in pieces.
10cm driver diameter, so looks like I will need 70mm (27.5") panel based on Planets vector drawing (4:1 scale).
Driver is an even 75cm (3") deep.
Driver is an even 75cm (3") deep.
10cm driver diameter, so looks like I will need 70mm (27.5") panel based on Planets vector drawing (4:1 scale).
Driver is an even 75cm (3") deep.
You can't use the 20 inch foam board for the face then. That's too bad.
I'm thinking I will use 2 panels for the front, I plan on doing some vinyl overlay on the fronts, so the seam won't be an issue.
Although....4x8 clear chloroplast is easy to get. If someone wanted that frosted look, you could use it for the front and backs and use the channels to route the wires in a clean way. Adhesive concerns would need to be figured out, as we have foam core, paper edges, and chloroplast to adhere. Not to mention one would have to be really good with the cleanliness of the glue and the edge cuts. I'm thinking ultra clear sealant (cant remember the name, comes only in a very clear sqeeze tube)
Although....4x8 clear chloroplast is easy to get. If someone wanted that frosted look, you could use it for the front and backs and use the channels to route the wires in a clean way. Adhesive concerns would need to be figured out, as we have foam core, paper edges, and chloroplast to adhere. Not to mention one would have to be really good with the cleanliness of the glue and the edge cuts. I'm thinking ultra clear sealant (cant remember the name, comes only in a very clear sqeeze tube)
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You could just tack the foam board in place with hot glue and then fill the gaps with caulk I suppose.How about acrylic latex bathroom adhesive?
Yes, that's what makes this project workable. I used nothing but hot glue on phase 1 of the spiral but I had to keep telling myself not to tool it like caulk.You need the inherent tacky quality of the hot glue to hold the spiral in place as you are forming it.
The skin has almost grown back on my finger.
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