Feel the bass?

[Riddles]

Hi,

I'm looking for a subwoofer design that can supply the most bass feeling. So it can be felt In the floor and chest? Does anyone know of such a design?? Could Bulid about 4 boxes to max.

Jake

 

[m R g S r]

What extension do you want? (is it for music or HT?)

 

[Riddles]

It's for music.... Rap, Hip Hop, Pop & dance style music.

Jake

 

[mdocod]

Hi Jake,

Space limitations? You say you can build 4 boxes. Curious to know the max size you can tolerate per box or if you can tolerate 1 or 2 very large boxes instead.

Also, what is the size of the room these will be used in?

Eric

 

[Riddles]

Hi,

Nope there isn't much limit in size. 1-2 large boxes will be fine. It's going to be in a large hall to large auditorium. I put 4 as wasn't really sure how many I would need.

Cheers

 

[pinkmouse]

If you just want that "kick in the chest" feeling then you don't need to go any lower than about 60Hz, that'll save power and increase efficiency. Have a look here for some ideas.

 

[ODougbo]

Power up man, what amps are you using?

 

[NEO Dan]

If you just want that "kick in the chest" feeling then you don't need to go any lower than about 60Hz, that'll save power and increase efficiency. Have a look here for some ideas.

Though this may be true the material he is wanting to play has loads of energy in the 40Hz range. I would look at the designs that claim 30-35Hz performance.

 

[m R g S r]

To FILL a large space like that down to 30hz for deep
Bass in music, I'd do a couple (two-four) of Josh Ricci's large horns. (galejhorn I believe?)
Or 4+ TH-18's Both with lots of power behind them (1200+ watts RMS each)

 

[cyclecamper]

Look at Danley Sound Labs. They manufacture tapped horns that are extremely efficient.

 

[m R g S r]

He wants to build not buy. That's why we're on DIY 😉

 

[ODougbo]

I always thought this looked like a good deal. Probably need 4 though.

Two mono 565 amps should help do the trick also (that's what my buddy did).

Creative Sound - Product Details

 

[m R g S r]

There's someone with a bunch of QSC rmx 5050's on prosoundweb right now. I think he wanted 900 each? Not a bad price for a beast of a subwoofer amp!
It's a true sub amp too. 20hz rating 3200w at 8 ohms bridged with .05% THD!

 

[mdocod]

It's important to understand, that to fill large spaces, with intense bass, normally requires enormous power. Are you in the states? elsewhere? What sort of power will you have available? Many individual circuits are limited to ~1800-3600W here in the states depending on application. Large venue sound reinforcement can reach into the 50,000-500,000W category to bring levels up to concert status and require abnormal taps into the mains to get there. I can think of a handful of single driver sub designs that could require well over 1000W average of real power to an amp during normal musical programs of modern musical "content." Large venues will often implement an entire array of such an animal.

Also, It's important to understand, that when folks like us ask about box size restrictions, we aren't kidding around. Are you alright with building boxes the size of refrigerators? By the time they are all braced up, they would weigh more than a single person could handle and all moving attempts will require proper planning and dolly's. Too big?

 

[m R g S r]

That's why I recommended the rmx 5050's. A few of them should be enough power to make a few boxes boogey!!

But yes some people don't realize what it actually takes to get there (distribution setups which can cost thousands themselves) multiple cabinets and multiple large amplifiers.

 

[wg_ski]

This is the kind of amplification required. The top left is one of those 5050's. The other 3 sub amps are the same power (still kicking myself for not buying more). Those RMX5050's keep going up and up and up in price. New ones could be had for $1100 back when I bought that one. I've often wondered if the XLS5000D is worth bothering with for cheap - whether it's in the same class as the RMX, or a POS like the other cheap Crowns.

The 'distro' is something you may or may not be able to get away with using depending on what kind of code enforcement you're up against. It plugs into a 4-wire range socket. 50A/240V service required.

 

[m R g S r]

What cabinets are those in the background? (the folded bass horns)
Mouth area looks huge

 

[thaumaturge]

Eliminate the room air.....

Aura AST-2B-4 Pro Bass Shaker 299-028

Mount right to sofa or chairs.
Doc

 

[wg_ski]

What cabinets are those in the background?

Full stack of labs. These have been posted around here before.

Funny thing is... I see several builds in progress where people are building big stacks of SS15's - with equivalent frontal area. If you're going to build that big of a stack, you might as well build something that will get you your 26 Hz.

 

[zobsky]

Hi,

I'm looking for a subwoofer design that can supply the most bass feeling. So it can be felt In the floor and chest? Does anyone know of such a design?? Could Bulid about 4 boxes to max.

Jake

Table Tuba will do it, in a home setting. Look for something else if this requirement is for a pro audio purpose.