Ok, i rephrase: what do you need that ******** fan FOR?😀
OK, once and for all...excessive heat will reduce the life of a hard drive, the hotter it runs, the quicker it dies. My computer has 4 hard drives in a bay that allows only about 1/2 inch between drives, and without the fan in the front of the case running, they get hot pretty quickly. I figured that out a couple of years ago when the fan stopped working and one of the drives in the middle of the stack died. So to answer your question is...yeah, sometimes you need a fan for cooling your hard drives. I've never seen a rack mount RAID array or NAS setup that didn't have multiple fans. A home desktop with only one hard drive and enough room for air circulation is usually OK with no fan, but it wouldn't hurt either.
Mike
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O.K. You won.
I can not argue with trolls.
I was quite serious asking for the need for such a fan...😕
Btw you did not give a serious answer and i have still not learned from this file if such a fan is worth the hassle.
A home desktop with only one hard drive and enough room for air circulation is usually OK with no fan, but it wouldn't hurt either.
Mike
Ok, but the "wouldn´t hurt" sounds to me the typical ACME CORP. overkill overengineered diy stuff that fails more than average...😎
Are you going to reuse the AMD processor? just look for the newest MB /chip set that is compatible which also means swapping out DDR2 RAM for 3.Hi. Thanks for the replies.
I've informed ccl computers, where i purchased the power supply from, and they have issued a return ticket. Do you think i should stick with seasonic?
Following your suggestions i'll buy a new motherboard, can i please have some recommedations,
i have an asus stx II soundcard and have just picked up a quadro 2000dvi graphics card, both are top end, are there any motherboards which will help bring out the best in these two for music and movies.
Many thanks.
I reckon any retail MB stuff sold in shops will be new enough (then cross check the OEM web site for CPU lists.)
PS Seasonic are more than good enough but you pay extra. I just avoid the no-name crapola and buy what evers big brands are on special offer. Which means I buy in advance and/or have a spare.
7200 rpm HDD with OS would like to have fan cooling, green drives with just data on em just don't need it (in a ATX case). All servers have fans in front cuz that is how they are designed in air cooled racks E.g system cooling, They just happen be infront of the HDD ( Ive seen a number of industry studies were they rule out heat as a dominate failure mode on spinning drives )
It's pretty smart these days choosing to install the OS on a dedicated SSD, you'd be surprise how much thrashing goes on with a HDD 2-3 Gb per day just from OS related activity.
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It's pretty smart these days choosing to install the OS on a dedicated SSD, you'd be surprise how much thrashing goes on with a HDD 2-3 Gb per day just from OS related activity.
2 crashes i have had in the past with laptops running JRIVER made me think playing music or videos is a too intensive task for hard drives, due to mechanical or thermal stresses, i don't know, or probably to both... Anyway i don't believe fans make miracles in those cases, i simply don't trust HDs too much...🙄
Are SSDs a more secure option for multimedia storage?
i simply don't trust HDs too much...🙄
Are SSDs a more secure option for multimedia storage?
1. Agreed
2. No
Btw you did not give a serious answer and i have still not learned from this file if such a fan is worth the hassle.
You are right to a certain degree.
Now, you can get a quite serious answer in this topic:
https://www.usenix.org/sites/default/files/fast16_full_proceedings_interior.pdf
Please read this chapter carefully:
Environmental Conditions and Disk Reliability in Free-Cooled Datacenters
pages 53-65
According to this study, the relative humidity plays a significant role in the hard disk failures.
Ok, but the "wouldn´t hurt" sounds to me the typical ACME CORP. overkill overengineered diy stuff that fails more than average...😎
Now I would like to know what to a base for a DIY fan harmful to your hard drive?
Assuming it doesn't give excess vibration to it.
(You can easily achieve it even DIY.)
Do not forget, the study is not to minimize the failures, but also the costs.
In Home PC environment I think main goal is to minimize failure,
because a failure at the same time it means the death of the data.
Regards,
Gyuri
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2 crashes i have had in the past with laptops running JRIVER made me think playing music or videos is a too intensive task for hard drives, due to mechanical or thermal stresses, i don't know, or probably to both... Anyway i don't believe fans make miracles in those cases, i simply don't trust HDs too much...🙄
Are SSDs a more secure option for multimedia storage?
Bluescreen Crashes? look up the error logs for clues
Jriver crashing on the desktop probably has more to do with software than hardware, sometimes the apps just get buggy. In my experience uninstall/ reboot reinstall software/apps fixes many unexplained issues.
No it was definitely the HD. One was on a Sony Vaio which advised me of a HD failure and recommended back up data before too late, the other one died without even advising. That's why i am somewhat twisted regarding building any musical/video library...
Though i keep storing things on USB, SD cards...

Though i keep storing things on USB, SD cards...
Your data is relatively safe if they are in more than one hard drive.
And these are locked away in different vaults.
And these are locked away in different vaults.
BTW, I have (amongst others) a BASF 10MB MFM full height hard drive.
It is almost as old as me.
But it will be operational even when I already smell the violets from the bottom.
(Nonsense, obviously it will be cremation.)
It is almost as old as me.
But it will be operational even when I already smell the violets from the bottom.
(Nonsense, obviously it will be cremation.)
Please read this chapter carefully:
Environmental Conditions and Disk Reliability in Free-Cooled Datacenters
pages 53-65
According to this study, the relative humidity plays a significant role in the hard disk failures.
Gyuri
Missed your post before. Thanks for the info.😎
Btw, like the smell of violets in the early morning...😉

Windows xp-64. Known to be very buggy and no longer supported by M$.
Suggest Win 7, 10, or Linux.
Suggest Win 7, 10, or Linux.
Now I would like to know what to a base for a DIY fan harmful to your hard drive?
Fans, for CPU cooling or whatever..., definitely suck! Never heard a fan silent enough...
Fanless is a very basic requirement for me. Definitely not a gamer...
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I see.
But it nothing to do with fans and HDD failures, pros and cons.
You approach it from wrong direction.
I have a music server in one room.
It can bluster as it wants.
Small fanless mini-ITX with SSD for music playback across gigabit lan where I listen to music.
Regards,
Gyuri
But it nothing to do with fans and HDD failures, pros and cons.
You approach it from wrong direction.
I have a music server in one room.
It can bluster as it wants.
Small fanless mini-ITX with SSD for music playback across gigabit lan where I listen to music.
Regards,
Gyuri
I see.
But it nothing to do with fans and HDD failures, pros and cons.
You approach it from wrong direction.
I have a music server in one room....
The question is simply that you love the PC experience, and i don't...
Btw, most people don't like the PC experience and use... smatphones, tablets, Rpi, or ... whatever is a PC without sucking like a PC sucks...
Only gamers with their freaky headsets on like multi fans overclocked, or overdone everything PC experience ...😀
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