N Channel board - P Channel board
You realise a single board for P- and N-channel is an option ?
e.g. add a 4th pad for the common cathode diode : solder the diode on the first three pads of one board, to last three on the other.
does it? when the stereo amp must be 4x taller? thats twice as much heatsinks as for 2 monoblocks. and the heatsinks are the most expensive part of the chassis. only topp and bottom plates that will be more expensive on monoblocks. and thats about 30$.
Again your math is well ...
Mono means two chassis , not only xtra top and bottom , means 2 face plates , 2 rear plates. Price it out , it is very similar in cost to 2 stereo chassis. Separate PCB, now requires 4 PCB /Ch 8 to do stereo , you must be using the same calculators as used by current economic leaders ...
To do as purpose is more costly ...........
You realise a single board for P- and N-channel is an option ?
e.g. add a 4th pad for the common cathode diode : solder the diode on the first three pads of one board, to last three on the other.
Jacco,
Maybe, but then the inputs and outputs will end up at opposite ends of the chassis.
Andy
lets take it more spesific.Again your math is well ...
Mono means two chassis , not only xtra top and bottom , means 2 face plates , 2 rear plates. Price it out , it is very similar in cost to 2 stereo chassis. Separate PCB, now requires 4 PCB /Ch 8 to do stereo , you must be using the same calculators as used by current economic leaders ...
To do as purpose is more costly ...........
stereo amp:
4pc. 10x12" heatsinks
1pc. 17x12" front
2pc. 20x11" topp/bottom
1pc. 11x12" back
1 monoblock:
4pc. 10x3" heatsinks
1pc. 17x3" front
2pc. 20x11" topp/bottom
1pc. 11x3" back
2 monoblocks ARE cheeper. and can handel the same amount of power as that one stereo amp. 2pc. of monoblocks use total of 10x24" heatsinks. and 17x6" front/back.
stereoamp use total of 10x48" heatsinks and total of 17x12" front/back.
how the hell can a stereo amp be cheeper?
in either case, you need 2ch ampboard, 2 pc PSUboards and 2 pc of 800VA transformer is most likely the same(ish) price as one 1500VA.
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Looking great! The more I think about it, the more I prefer having the input and output boards separated.
Can you add some mounting holes to both boards? Also, any way you might be able to setup the PS Board to accept Fukushima MPC74 type power resistors? I'm finishing up a big GB for these resistors, and I'm about to mail out 900 of these things. I have a feeling a few members might want to use it on your PS Board.
Can you add some mounting holes to both boards? Also, any way you might be able to setup the PS Board to accept Fukushima MPC74 type power resistors? I'm finishing up a big GB for these resistors, and I'm about to mail out 900 of these things. I have a feeling a few members might want to use it on your PS Board.
Not if U3, U4, U5, and U7 are all there.
Hmm. Looking at that now.....
Looking great! The more I think about it, the more I prefer having the input and output boards separated.
Can you add some mounting holes to both boards? Also, any way you might be able to setup the PS Board to accept Fukushima MPC74 type power resistors? I'm finishing up a big GB for these resistors, and I'm about to mail out 900 of these things. I have a feeling a few members might want to use it on your PS Board.
Let me grab the data sheet and look at that
AudioSan , you are one funny guy ... you do know you need 2 chassis for Mono Bloc's, let me fix it for you ...
Now you have 2 chassis cheaper than one ....
Yes i know, just the stupid manufacturers haven't figured that out yet and still offer stereo amplifiers in one chassis ...
Have you priced out fans .... they work ... anyway looking forward in seeing your 3 inch high mono blocs .....
lets take it more spesific.
stereo amp:
4pc. 10x12" heatsinks
1pc. 17x12" front
2pc. 20x11" topp/bottom
1pc. 11x12" back
2 monoblock:
8pc. 10x3" heatsinks
2pc. 17x3" front
4pc. 20x11" topp/bottom
2pc. 11x3" back
Now you have 2 chassis cheaper than one ....
2 monoblocks ARE cheeper.
Yes i know, just the stupid manufacturers haven't figured that out yet and still offer stereo amplifiers in one chassis ...
and the stereo amp will need atleast twice the baseplate as the monoblocks, to spread the heat. thats not cheep.
Have you priced out fans .... they work ... anyway looking forward in seeing your 3 inch high mono blocs .....
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Let me grab the data sheet and look at that
Here is the data sheet:
Fukushima Ceramic Plate Resistors MPC74
The GB was for the straight type MPC74, which looks to have a lead spacing of 9mm with 0.8mm leads.
You are a funny guy ... you do know you need 2 chassis for Mono Bloc's, let me fix it for you ...
Now you have 2 chassis cheaper than one ....
Yes i know, just the stupid manufacturers haven't figured that out yet and still offer stereo amplifiers in one chassis ...
Have you priced out fans .... they work ...
stereo amp chassis need to be 4 times taller then 2 monoblock chassis to handle the same amount of power. so twice as mutch heatsinks. twice as big front/back as 2 mnoblocks together we are not talking about fans now. and the bigger the heatsink the thicker baseplate of the sinks. thats a fact!!
we are NOT talking about monoblocks and stereoamp of same sice!!!!!!
a 2x100W stereo class A amp most be 4 times taller then a 1x100W class A monoblock(taken the same type sinks and depth)!!
BTW: i had calculated for 2 monoblocks. find a calculator and look and the total numbers i gave you. those are for 2 monoblocks. not for one!
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The mention of Fukushima suggests the total meltdown of this beast when the cooling system fails!Let me grab the data sheet and look at that
stereo amp chassis need to be 4 times taller then 2 monoblock chassis to handle the same amount of power. so twice as mutch heatsinks. twice as big front/back as 2 mnoblocks together we are not talking about fans now. and the bigger the heatsink the thicker baseplate of the sinks. thats a fact!!
we are NOT talking about monoblocks and stereoamp of same sice!!!!!!
a 2x100W stereo class A amp most be 4 times taller then a 1x100W class A monoblock(taken the same type sinks and depth)!!
BTW: i had calculated for 2 monoblocks. find a calculator and look and the total numbers i gave you. those are for 2 monoblocks. not for one!
San ,
I increased your numbers in my response, your original post had parts for one mono amp. The heatsinks in stereo is not necessarily 4 times the size and most if not all expressed using fans..
Even if i had monster heat sinks i would still use a temperature controlled fan for the case and i still say you cannot fit 4 boards , caps, rectifiers and transformer in a 3 inch tall case, so your numbers are off...
Jacco,
Good spot.
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Yes i know, just the stupid manufacturers haven't figured that out yet and still offer stereo amplifiers in one chassis ...
What manufacturers are you talking about? I'm not aware of too many that make Class A amps. It's easier to make two separate board sets into a stereo amp than it is to do the other way.
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