A simple question, if I want to use a 2 x 22 VAC transformer, which gives just a little under 2 x 30 VDC after rectification and I am using the Fairchild output FETs, can I then use the standard F5 circuit as is? Ofcourse I would have to reduce the bias somewhat to keep the cooling requirements within reason, but anything around 10-15 W Class A into 8 ohm is enough already as it is, just need a little more power in reserve. Should be getting about 40-45 W Class AB into 8 ohm.
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My F5 is alive, my first non chipamp project. It is a very sweet amp.
Thank you Papa !
Hi.It is good to hear this.How does it sound?I think Kendeils are good for this amplifier.Great energy smooth sound.
With 2x22V secondary, the solution I would suggest is to add a power supply regulator like in Zen V3 :
http://www.passdiy.com/pdf/zen-ver3.pdf
> why don't we just terminate the AC mains instead of shorten the inputs, outputs?
We do that as well, but you still have a lot of energy stored in your power supply caps that needs diverting away from your speakers.
Patrick
http://www.passdiy.com/pdf/zen-ver3.pdf
> why don't we just terminate the AC mains instead of shorten the inputs, outputs?
We do that as well, but you still have a lot of energy stored in your power supply caps that needs diverting away from your speakers.
Patrick
Hi.It is good to hear this.How does it sound?I think Kendeils are good for this amplifier.Great energy smooth sound.
The best amp so far. Next upgrade: adding 2 X 100 000uf kendeil. But for now, i'm more than satisfied with my f5, it give my cd a second life.
A simple question, if I want to use a 2 x 22 VAC transformer, which gives just a little under 2 x 30 VDC after rectification and I am using the Fairchild output FETs, can I then use the standard F5 circuit as is? Ofcourse I would have to reduce the bias somewhat to keep the cooling requirements within reason, but anything around 10-15 W Class A into 8 ohm is enough already as it is, just need a little more power in reserve. Should be getting about 40-45 W Class AB into 8 ohm.
You could have a look at the answers to the same question last week. 😀
Link to post: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/pass-labs/121228-f5-power-amplifier-796.html#post2200904
Thanks Patrick.
Any different between vishay & IR IRFP240 9240 pairs?
IR now belongs to vishay, vishay one should be new stock then.
Any different between vishay & IR IRFP240 9240 pairs?
IR now belongs to vishay, vishay one should be new stock then.
Thanks Patrick.
Any different between vishay & IR IRFP240 9240 pairs?
IR now belongs to vishay, vishay one should be new stock then.
YES.I would ask it too.Does vishay IRFP9240 have p channel effect too?
You could have a look at the answers to the same question last week. 😀
Link to post: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/pass-labs/121228-f5-power-amplifier-796.html#post2200904
Thanks, but going for the higher supply voltage to get just a little more power into 8 ohm Class AB.
Are there any suitable higher voltage substitutes for the JFETs used in the standard F5?
higher voltage JFETs
There are no 1-on-1 substitutes.
Problem for complementary JFETs is the P-channel.
Complementary JFET pairs with a higher voltage rating than 25V are obsolete numbers, for instance NEC J44/K163 (40V/50V).
The K163 is easy to buy in sufficient numbers for as little as 50 $cents, the P-channel will be several dollars each.
And not drop-in replacements, transconductance is less than 50% compared to J74/K170.
There are no 1-on-1 substitutes.
Problem for complementary JFETs is the P-channel.
Complementary JFET pairs with a higher voltage rating than 25V are obsolete numbers, for instance NEC J44/K163 (40V/50V).
The K163 is easy to buy in sufficient numbers for as little as 50 $cents, the P-channel will be several dollars each.
And not drop-in replacements, transconductance is less than 50% compared to J74/K170.
So no easy solution, drats!
Maybe one should just order cvillers boards with option for double output mosfets and cascode. If he still sells them.
He does, but only for a few more days. 😀
I'm moving back to dk, so I won't be able to sell boards while I'm moving.
I'm moving back to dk, so I won't be able to sell boards while I'm moving.
just double output mosfets and cascode.
Strangely enough, the basic F5 can be scaled from substandard to 100W full Class A in a quad bridged balanced mode and anything inbetween.
Yet cascoding seems more favorable.
Before I order anything I have just one question, whats the max supply voltage that a F5 cascoded and with dual pair of output mosfets can take, using the board from Cviller. I was personally hoping for something around 2 x 30-35 VDC, is that possible? Bias would ofcourse be adjusted to a total of 2.6 amp pr channel(0.65 amp pr FET) with a possible reduction or smallish increase depending on what I decide upon and what cooling there will be available.
Arent you limited by the max Gate-source voltage of the output FETs? +/-30V for the Fairchilds and +/- 20V for the IRFs, have I gotten that right?...or wrong...?
But then again, NP mention somewhere in this gigantian thread that 30 V, or even 35 V was possibly since the output FET's could handle it, but that might have been something I misunderstood.
(Im a FET noob)
Arent you limited by the max Gate-source voltage of the output FETs? +/-30V for the Fairchilds and +/- 20V for the IRFs, have I gotten that right?...or wrong...?
But then again, NP mention somewhere in this gigantian thread that 30 V, or even 35 V was possibly since the output FET's could handle it, but that might have been something I misunderstood.
(Im a FET noob)
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He does, but only for a few more days. 😀
I'm moving back to dk, so I won't be able to sell boards while I'm moving.
Hope I have until tomorrow(monday), or tuesday.
I think you can use the 22VAC trafos without any problems, but I have not heard any reports about what is the highest possible voltage with cascodes and I haven't tried it myself. You need a large heatsink to run this beast though... 😉
A tiny correction: the standard current is 1.3A through each device, but you might want to go for a lower current per device.
A tiny correction: the standard current is 1.3A through each device, but you might want to go for a lower current per device.
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