ashaw said:the scheematics are in vector format. you do not need another version
Oh yes, so they are 😉
aleph3 F5
does anyone has both aleph3 and F5 ? what are the sonic differences when playing instruments?..i built F5.is it worth to build an aleph3 after building F5?thanks
does anyone has both aleph3 and F5 ? what are the sonic differences when playing instruments?..i built F5.is it worth to build an aleph3 after building F5?thanks
Nelson Pass said:That is our own member Jackinnj. I regard him as trustworthy.
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TNX,
I have had to raise some prices -- I am out of my OLD stock on the IRF/Vishay HEXFET's -- and since Vishay took over IRF's discrete products the prices have really shot up. (Pretty unbelievable if you look at the bomb Intel laid on the market, but discretes is discretes.)
I think 1 shipment may have gone astray over Christmas -- have been away for 2 wks.
Just got done reading through.....a second time. If we remove TH1/2, does R15/16 need to be removed as well? A builder in this thread somewhere removed the thermistors, and put 5.6K for the resistors and jumped TH1/2. Is this correct?
For the inevitable water cooled version, is there a limit to P1,P2 adjustability to increase bias in its stock form. Does the value need to change to offer larger window? Does the source resistance need to be changed as well? Or will just changing R11/12 to 0.33 allow for proper adjustment?
I ask because it wasn't clearly defined, if it was, I apologize.🙂
-john
For the inevitable water cooled version, is there a limit to P1,P2 adjustability to increase bias in its stock form. Does the value need to change to offer larger window? Does the source resistance need to be changed as well? Or will just changing R11/12 to 0.33 allow for proper adjustment?
I ask because it wasn't clearly defined, if it was, I apologize.🙂
-john
You can just remove the thermistors (you'll just need to adjust P1/P2 accordingly). R16 and R15 won't do anything if the thermistors are not there too.
When I fired up my F5 for the first time I was too lazy to adjust the P1/P2, and something started smoking very fast. Luckily nothing burned, so the amp was fine when I turned down the current. But you should easily be able to double the current just by adjusting the potmeters.
Why don't you want to remove the thermistors?
When I fired up my F5 for the first time I was too lazy to adjust the P1/P2, and something started smoking very fast. Luckily nothing burned, so the amp was fine when I turned down the current. But you should easily be able to double the current just by adjusting the potmeters.
Why don't you want to remove the thermistors?
People that are already building F5's, are they making their own pcbs, or are they available somewhere? Are they still going to be released on Pass DIY? I've never built an amp before, but I have no doubt I can pull it off with the fine folks over here in the Pass forum! Thanks much!
-Justin
-Justin
There are two group buys right now, you can find them under group buys. I still have more boards left, and I'm sure Peter Daniel has more too.
Awesome! Thanks for the heads up. I know that when i had emailed Colin Pass about it, he said they hope to be able to offer the F5 boards with matched fets as well (like they are doing with the B1). I'm in no rush to build the F5, the B1 comes first (waiting for the next batch of pcbs), but I was just curious if pass diy would still be selling boards, especially with the group buys and such.
-Justin
-Justin
cviller said:
Why don't you want to remove the thermistors?
Current limiting gone, thermistors gone

Huge heatsinks
What current are you aiming for? You might be able to keep the thermistors. If you are going really crazy with current you might have to consider the rating of the source resistors.
cviller said:What current are you aiming for?
I'll have to wait and see how efficient the water cooling is. Maybe 2 and above. Changing sources to 5W or higher...no brainer.
MEGA-amp said:
Changing sources to 5W or higher...no brainer.
If you wish, try the planar MPC 74 (5W, "low disortion" type) avalable at THL Audio.
Non inductive and much cheaper than Mills. Used by many hi-end companies, such as Accuphase.
Reuse Transformers?
Sorry for the newb question...
I've got a Zen V4 built which uses a single rail power supply - each channel with a 300VA transformers, each with dual 18V secondary windings. When I built it, I assumed that if I were to build another amp, I'd just get new transformers, but now the cost savings of re-using the transformers looks too tempting.
The problem is that the Zen V4 used the secondary windings in series to give 36VAC, so I trimmed the unnecessary leads really short and then soldered them together. So my question: if I'm to reuse the transformers for the F5, can I use a power supply with just one rectifier bridge like the Zen V4? It would seem that using dual bridges with the windings in parallel gives 2*25VDC = 50VDC, or one bridge with the windings in series would give simply 50VDC. Am I missing something? Er, rather... what is it that I'm missing? 🙂
If I can't use just one bridge, I'd have to unsolder the tied together leads and take the odd step of extending them. oi - heatshrink, I guess.
-j
Sorry for the newb question...
I've got a Zen V4 built which uses a single rail power supply - each channel with a 300VA transformers, each with dual 18V secondary windings. When I built it, I assumed that if I were to build another amp, I'd just get new transformers, but now the cost savings of re-using the transformers looks too tempting.
The problem is that the Zen V4 used the secondary windings in series to give 36VAC, so I trimmed the unnecessary leads really short and then soldered them together. So my question: if I'm to reuse the transformers for the F5, can I use a power supply with just one rectifier bridge like the Zen V4? It would seem that using dual bridges with the windings in parallel gives 2*25VDC = 50VDC, or one bridge with the windings in series would give simply 50VDC. Am I missing something? Er, rather... what is it that I'm missing? 🙂
If I can't use just one bridge, I'd have to unsolder the tied together leads and take the odd step of extending them. oi - heatshrink, I guess.
-j
To clarify, it would still be a dual-rail supply of +/-25VDC. I've seen other dual rail supplies with only one bridge rectifier - I guess I'm just wondering 1) if it's possible for the F5, and 2) if so, what are the drawbacks.
thanks,
-j
thanks,
-j
Re: Reuse Transformers?
yup ;
when you have 18V ends on your disposal , do whatever you wnat to do .
even this :
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1716672#post1716672
Diomedian said:........ I'd have to unsolder the tied together leads and take the odd step of extending them. oi - heatshrink, I guess.
-j
yup ;
when you have 18V ends on your disposal , do whatever you wnat to do .
even this :
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1716672#post1716672
I would just build the recommended power supply. It's part of the magic of the circuit. Not really a whole lot of work. Check out this post.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1486149#post1486149
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1486149#post1486149
i finished my f5 few days ago.
It was pretty easy to ajust the both sides to 0,6V voltage drop at the source resistors and to almost zero offset.
But:i have a voltage drop on R3/4 for about 4,9V and 5,1 V instead of the recommended (or better: expected) 4,2 Volts.
Still no sweat, or anything unhealthy in that nice little amp?
stefan
It was pretty easy to ajust the both sides to 0,6V voltage drop at the source resistors and to almost zero offset.
But:i have a voltage drop on R3/4 for about 4,9V and 5,1 V instead of the recommended (or better: expected) 4,2 Volts.
Still no sweat, or anything unhealthy in that nice little amp?
stefan
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