my guess is (and it's merely a guess) is that the straight line layout you propose is better than the standard Peter Daniel board, but not better than using a spreader approach like Magura is suggesting, which in turn is probably not quite as good as using a pair of 6" heat sinks per side. Again, this is just guessing...
Also, yes the differential is pretty small, a few degrees here and there, but I've come to find that a few degrees can make a lot of difference.
I've also used the results to help me choose a thermostat rating as well as locating a good position to use it. I'm looking at the Sensata/Airpax TO-220 devices and will probably choose a 50C value (Digikey 723-1203-ND) placed in the center of the heat sink. Before the simulations, I had selected a 75C device, but now I know that that is way to high, as I cannot get the thermostat close enough to the "hot spots" and as a result I will derate the device and move it to another position. I think the simulations helped inform this decision.
Also, yes the differential is pretty small, a few degrees here and there, but I've come to find that a few degrees can make a lot of difference.
I've also used the results to help me choose a thermostat rating as well as locating a good position to use it. I'm looking at the Sensata/Airpax TO-220 devices and will probably choose a 50C value (Digikey 723-1203-ND) placed in the center of the heat sink. Before the simulations, I had selected a 75C device, but now I know that that is way to high, as I cannot get the thermostat close enough to the "hot spots" and as a result I will derate the device and move it to another position. I think the simulations helped inform this decision.
Thanks for your kind words Choky. I took a scotchbrite to the aluminum pieces last night and then cleaned them all with alcohol. They came out nice. I think I will leave it bear metal at least for now.
I used copper spreader in Zv9 and heatsink temp is pretty much uniform: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85590&highlight=
1E resistors
Twitchie,
That's a headamp design with the 15 volt rails, the (9)510 fets and those 1E (1 ohm) power resistors.
Twitchie,
That's a headamp design with the 15 volt rails, the (9)510 fets and those 1E (1 ohm) power resistors.
Peter Daniel said:I used copper spreader in Zv9 and heatsink temp is pretty much uniform: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85590&highlight=
wow Peter, looks great. Seems the price of copper will have to make this a future addition for me.
Also one question.. I cannot seem to find some large fender washers used to distribute the force on the FET cases. I see these on so many pictures, including the real-deal First Watt amps. I ordered some #4 fender washers online and was disappointed to find them only slightly larger than usual #4 washers. The ones on the First Watt amplifiers are actually larger in diameter than the width of the FETs! I'm guessing this part is something buried deep in the abyss that is the McMaster-Carr catalog?
Peter what did you use to bond the copper plate to the heatsink? I am planning to use large copper plates to join my heatsinks together, and was wondering what would be the best product to use.
Peter Daniel said:I used #6-40 screws and thermal paste.
As to the washers, you may check Home Depot or Lowes.
Peter:
I've looked and never found anything, but maybe I'll be luckier this time around. Also, totally unrelated, but what type of hook-up wire do you use in your creations, if you wouldn't mind sharing.
Question to help me fix a catastrophic screw up. Last night, I was assembling my F4 monoblock. I got everything wired up. All hard soldered. Everything checked, double checked. Then I realized I needed a power cord from my Neutrik Powercon connector to my power supply. No problem. I built one up. All I had was black wire kicking around, so I added some colored heat shrink for polarity. Well, I screwed it up. I ended up putting power to the ground.
The positive was correct, the negative was to ground and the ground was to negative.
So, my question is where do I start to fix the sad reality that it now pops fuses.

So, my question is where do I start to fix the sad reality that it now pops fuses.
The Mosfets have reverse diodes built into them, so that often
enough you can pump a tremendous amount of reverse current
through the channel without blowing anything. You will have to
isolate the damage. This is a good time to invest a few bucks in
a Variac (you won't regret it). Try Marlin P Jones on the web.
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enough you can pump a tremendous amount of reverse current
through the channel without blowing anything. You will have to
isolate the damage. This is a good time to invest a few bucks in
a Variac (you won't regret it). Try Marlin P Jones on the web.
😎
I have a variac already, As I said... catastrophic screw up. I did everything but check continuity on the power cord. All I can say is stupid stupid stupid.
Anyway. Thanks, I will use the good channel to compare.
Anyway. Thanks, I will use the good channel to compare.
luvdunhill said:
Peter:
I've looked and never found anything, but maybe I'll be luckier this time around.
I don't bother with HD and Lowes for mechanicals -- I just order from McMaster-Carr and the stuff is always here the next day.
Thanks Nelson. You are kind in saying that we all do it. I know that, yet it is always a bit deflating when it does happen.
For Stainless bolts and washers, including fender, Bolt Depot has been great! I built my amp using all S.S. recessed hex capscrews and it wasn't very costly at all!
http://www.boltdepot.com/product.aspx?cc=12&cs=63&cm=6
http://www.boltdepot.com
http://www.boltdepot.com/product.aspx?cc=12&cs=63&cm=6
http://www.boltdepot.com
luvdunhill said:Also, totally unrelated, but what type of hook-up wire do you use in your creations, if you wouldn't mind sharing.
I use Cardas for power, Kimber for speakers and DHLabs solid core silver for signal connections.
PCB's
For those wanting the Peter Daniel F4 PCB sets, or even an F3 PCB, I have started Wiki. Roll your own FW clone.
http://www.diyaudio.com/wiki/index.php?page=FirstWattPCBReissues
Please edit wiki carefully.
Peter has agreed to order if 50 pairs of each are ordered.
For those wanting the Peter Daniel F4 PCB sets, or even an F3 PCB, I have started Wiki. Roll your own FW clone.
http://www.diyaudio.com/wiki/index.php?page=FirstWattPCBReissues
Please edit wiki carefully.
Peter has agreed to order if 50 pairs of each are ordered.

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