Ah, the Ariel Atom... would love to take one for a spin.... some guys have all (automotive) fun. There are others I'd like to take for a spin as well.
Anyway, it would appear that Boynton is closely related to Feastrex. Sounds like a winter retreat should be in order. I would suggest 2 Georges on the intracoastal, any takers?
Regards, KM
Anyway, it would appear that Boynton is closely related to Feastrex. Sounds like a winter retreat should be in order. I would suggest 2 Georges on the intracoastal, any takers?
Regards, KM
2 Georges
I have not heard that name in 40 years... can't believe they are still at it.
When I was a kid,I use to sneak my skiff out the Boynton inlet... It scared the hell out of me.
I have not heard that name in 40 years... can't believe they are still at it.
When I was a kid,I use to sneak my skiff out the Boynton inlet... It scared the hell out of me.
Comparison between Tanka horns and Teresonic Ingenium Silvers
In the web page:
http://dagogo.com/Events/2008RMAF/Coverage-XII.html
This portion of Dagogo's 2008 RMAF Coverage by Jack Roberts (Updated Nov 3, 2008)
Jack Roberts' Top Ten Rooms
Jack commented;
... They (Tanaka Horns) sounded like my beloved Teresonic Ingenium Silvers, ...
Does anyone explain the characteristics of the Teresonic Ingenium Silvers with Lowther drivers comparing with Tanaka Horns with Feastrex?
We have just read such web pages,
http://www.dagogo.com/TeresonicIngeniumSilver.html
and want to know what kind of "Enhanced" is achieved for TQWT.
Bunpei
In the web page:
http://dagogo.com/Events/2008RMAF/Coverage-XII.html
This portion of Dagogo's 2008 RMAF Coverage by Jack Roberts (Updated Nov 3, 2008)
Jack Roberts' Top Ten Rooms
Jack commented;
... They (Tanaka Horns) sounded like my beloved Teresonic Ingenium Silvers, ...
Does anyone explain the characteristics of the Teresonic Ingenium Silvers with Lowther drivers comparing with Tanaka Horns with Feastrex?
We have just read such web pages,
http://www.dagogo.com/TeresonicIngeniumSilver.html
and want to know what kind of "Enhanced" is achieved for TQWT.
Bunpei
Well, those Terasonics are not really TQWTs at all. Strictly speaking a TQWT is a reverse taper line (one that narrows toward the open terminus) i.e the exact opposite of what is commonly called a TQWT these days. The Terasonics are therefore better classified as mass-loaded horns. Reading between the lines, they've probably stuffed some restrictive bracing in there somewhere that fools with the internal airflow. Conversely, the Tanaka boxes are straightforward Nessie style resonant tubes (not horns).
Given that they were clearly in completely different rooms, with completely different systems (and probably with completely different material being played) I wouldn't take the remark that they sounded like each other too seriously. Move them into a different context, and they'll likely sound very different from each other.
Given that they were clearly in completely different rooms, with completely different systems (and probably with completely different material being played) I wouldn't take the remark that they sounded like each other too seriously. Move them into a different context, and they'll likely sound very different from each other.
Scottmoose, no doubt your closing remarks there are correct. However, the writer in question owns the Teresonics and spent a few hours listening to the Feastrex drivers, so even though they were by no means being directly compared I'm willing to lend a certain amount of credence to his report that they have a general similarity of character. Again to return to your point above, probably if they could be compared side-by-side there would be all sorts of differences becoming apparent.
-- Chris
-- Chris
That's what I'm talking about. I dare say that the Feastrex show-room did sound similar to his setup at home, but I wouldn't take that as automatically meaning the speakers have a similar signiture, because they won't -certainly not below ~1KHz anyway. It just means that the particular combinations of room & systems resulted in a general trend that roughly match each other. I wouldn't try to read any more into it than that.
Question for Chris, or anybody else willing to take a stab,
What kind of comfortable SPL could one hope to get out of the D5nf run fullrange in an open baffle? Could one run them filterless for lowish vol listening (say <80db) in a small/medium sized room?
Cheers
B.
What kind of comfortable SPL could one hope to get out of the D5nf run fullrange in an open baffle? Could one run them filterless for lowish vol listening (say <80db) in a small/medium sized room?
Cheers
B.
Others may have more useful input than me since I have only listened to the D5nf on very small open baffles. Unless you use a really huge pair of baffles (or both drivers in one large baffle might also be satisfactory for some people), you won't get any bass worth writing home about without augmentation by a woofer. But with that caveat, I have always enjoyed listening to any Feastrex driver in an open baffle, whether large or small. The SPL you are talking about should pose no problem. Running any Feastrex driver in OB full range will cause the driver to run out of steam relatively fast in the low bass region, but you should be okay for 80dB -- no problem.
-- Chris
-- Chris
Thanks for the reply Chris.
If I do eventually go down this road I would certainly augment with dipole bass driver. As long as I could get the D5nf down to ±200hz in a reasonably sized baffle I would be happy.
If I do eventually go down this road I would certainly augment with dipole bass driver. As long as I could get the D5nf down to ±200hz in a reasonably sized baffle I would be happy.
Re: Re: Re: New Cab
Identities of those dogs were revealed to be "Caperino & Peperone".
http://www.caperinopeperone.com/home.php
The photos are used on a CD package produced by "Rambling Records" based in Tokyo.
http://blogs.colette.fr/caperinopeperone/2008/10/16/art-of-living/
http://www.rambling.ne.jp/html/catalogue/detail.php?id=RBCS-2293
(In Japanese)
However, those objects seem to be planned, designed and created in Paris.
In the CD, you will find, "Il Vecchio E Il Bambino / Carla Bruni"!
Bunpei
cdwitmer said:As if you needed any more evidence, here is the ultimate proof that being a Feastrex owner is a dog's life:
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This also proves that if France didn't already exist, it would be necessary to invent it. 😀
-- Chris
mluckow said:
Funny, I just said *exactly* the same thing to Chris in an email yesterday. In addition to those things, I also love French films and French music. Especially the music of the beautiful and multi-talented Carla Bruni. She sounds absolutely stunning on these new drivers. As I told Chris, no one can do 5ex better than her!
😉
Mike
Identities of those dogs were revealed to be "Caperino & Peperone".
http://www.caperinopeperone.com/home.php
The photos are used on a CD package produced by "Rambling Records" based in Tokyo.
http://blogs.colette.fr/caperinopeperone/2008/10/16/art-of-living/
http://www.rambling.ne.jp/html/catalogue/detail.php?id=RBCS-2293
(In Japanese)
However, those objects seem to be planned, designed and created in Paris.
In the CD, you will find, "Il Vecchio E Il Bambino / Carla Bruni"!
Bunpei
Doggy OB follow-up
Since Bunpei beat me to the punch on the news of the CD (with which Feastrex has no direct connection), I 'll just add a bit more information . . .
Sound samples (of the CD, not the speakers) can be heard here:
http://www.rambling.ne.jp/html/catalogue/detail.php?nm=1&id=RBCS-2293
Here is some more info:
http://blogs.colette.fr/caperinopeperone/2008/09/12/music-compilation-art-of-living/
http://blogs.colette.fr/caperinopeperone/2008/09/11/haute-fidelite/
Since I'm so out of touch with fashion and trends, I never knew until today that the dogs in those speakers are popular characters frequently appearing in Vogue Japan and other media:
http://www.addadog.com/v3/index.php
-- Chris
Since Bunpei beat me to the punch on the news of the CD (with which Feastrex has no direct connection), I 'll just add a bit more information . . .
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
Sound samples (of the CD, not the speakers) can be heard here:
http://www.rambling.ne.jp/html/catalogue/detail.php?nm=1&id=RBCS-2293
Here is some more info:
http://blogs.colette.fr/caperinopeperone/2008/09/12/music-compilation-art-of-living/
http://blogs.colette.fr/caperinopeperone/2008/09/11/haute-fidelite/
Since I'm so out of touch with fashion and trends, I never knew until today that the dogs in those speakers are popular characters frequently appearing in Vogue Japan and other media:
http://www.addadog.com/v3/index.php
-- Chris
Here is something you don't see every day . . . a D9e-II driver retrofitted to a Tannoy enclosure. This enclosure apparently required a lot of additional reinforcement but now sounds pretty good, I'm told.
-- Chris

-- Chris
And here's an interesting one . . . Mr. Tanaka, the urushi craftsman who built the large "Nessie-like" enclosures for the high-end field coil drivers, has since come up with a smaller enclosure for the D5nf:
Normally a photo would be released with an attractive finish, but apparently someone who heard these at the stage of development shown said "the heck with the finish . . . these babies are going home with me RIGHT NOW." In other words, it is apparently a very successful design.
(One thing that can be surmised from the photo is that the inside of the enclosures as shown already has an urushi finish, because Mr. Tanaka always puts the urushi on the inside panels before assembling the box.)
The dimensions are W245xD380xH1200 (mm). The word is that these play very low for a D5nf speaker (down into the 30s), but without messing up the higher frequencies in the process. If you care to think of it as a horn (I have no idea about the specifics of the internal construction), apparently the total length is about 3 meters.
-- Chris

Normally a photo would be released with an attractive finish, but apparently someone who heard these at the stage of development shown said "the heck with the finish . . . these babies are going home with me RIGHT NOW." In other words, it is apparently a very successful design.
(One thing that can be surmised from the photo is that the inside of the enclosures as shown already has an urushi finish, because Mr. Tanaka always puts the urushi on the inside panels before assembling the box.)
The dimensions are W245xD380xH1200 (mm). The word is that these play very low for a D5nf speaker (down into the 30s), but without messing up the higher frequencies in the process. If you care to think of it as a horn (I have no idea about the specifics of the internal construction), apparently the total length is about 3 meters.
-- Chris
More likely a trad style folded TQWT / conical horn judging from the dimensions Chris refers to above.
cdwitmer said:Here is something you don't see every day . . . a D9e-II driver retrofitted to a Tannoy enclosure. This enclosure apparently required a lot of additional reinforcement but now sounds pretty good, I'm told.
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-- Chris
Reinforcement? No doubt! The Type II is a real "motivator." What is the material of that front panel?
Shown behind: D6 triple port enclosure, JBL horns.
The peaches that come from this fellow's farm are simply divine. Mr. Teramoto called them "The best in Yamanashi." I did not feel compelled to seek any others out for comparison.
Hmmm... fond memories/ missing summertime in Yamanashi with Mr. Teramoto, but loving all the free wine I get in Walla Walla and NF5ex. Life sucks.
-Clark
Paulownia! Having lived in Japan for most of life, I have become a huge fan of paulownia (kiri) wood. The Japanese have traditionally made very extensive use of this wood, especially for chests of drawers known as kiri tansu. ( http://www.kamocci.or.jp/kamo/kamo_home_e/about/about3/index.html ) Some of these have been in constant use for centuries! The kiri tansu are left unvarnished; when they get too dingy-looking, a craftsman will go over them with a hand plane and correct any looseness, etc. (the chests are traditionally held together without any nails or screws, although nails and/or screws might be used to mount metal hardware), and they'll come back looking like new and ready for another generation of use. Really amazing. Paulownia also makes among the very best (fastest burning) charcoal for black powder.
But I never thought of using Paulownia planks for loudspeakers! Check it out:
Yes, you saw correctly! That's the plain vanilla Feastrex enclosure, but with a Coral Flat 6 (16cm) driver inside! That belongs to the enclosure builder, and not to the folks at Feastrex. But everyone at Feastrex has a high opinion of Coral and it is possible that Feastrex might not even exist if it had not been for Coral. Anyway, here are some more shorts:
Feastrex's president, Mr. Akiyama, was speculating that finishing this wood with urushi would produce a sound character that is close to ideal.
I don't know if Paulownia in Japan and elsewhere are the same, but here is a bit more information on this unusual wood:
http://www.paulowniawood.com/
-- Chris
But I never thought of using Paulownia planks for loudspeakers! Check it out:
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
Yes, you saw correctly! That's the plain vanilla Feastrex enclosure, but with a Coral Flat 6 (16cm) driver inside! That belongs to the enclosure builder, and not to the folks at Feastrex. But everyone at Feastrex has a high opinion of Coral and it is possible that Feastrex might not even exist if it had not been for Coral. Anyway, here are some more shorts:
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
Feastrex's president, Mr. Akiyama, was speculating that finishing this wood with urushi would produce a sound character that is close to ideal.
I don't know if Paulownia in Japan and elsewhere are the same, but here is a bit more information on this unusual wood:
http://www.paulowniawood.com/
-- Chris
"it is possible that Feastrex might not even exist if it had not been for Coral."
Chris, are you able to elaborate? I personally never heard this story (sounds like an interesting footnote in history) and also have never heard a coral driver...
-Clark
Chris, are you able to elaborate? I personally never heard this story (sounds like an interesting footnote in history) and also have never heard a coral driver...
-Clark
Clark's Speaker
Clark's Nf 5ex Loudspeaker:
Great Bass
Great Imaging
Excellent Texture
Has a kind of sinuous, lively quality perhaps due to the bamboo ply, black locust combo. I enjoyed having a chance to hear Clark's first effort. Out of the gate it is really excellent. I know he plans some final tweaking. Can't wait to hear when he's a little further down the path.
Joe C.
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Clark's Nf 5ex Loudspeaker:
Great Bass
Great Imaging
Excellent Texture
Has a kind of sinuous, lively quality perhaps due to the bamboo ply, black locust combo. I enjoyed having a chance to hear Clark's first effort. Out of the gate it is really excellent. I know he plans some final tweaking. Can't wait to hear when he's a little further down the path.
Joe C.
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