Negative Design said:
I meant the 'one finger up' avatar.
About the moderators huffin and puffin you really don't wanna do that. As you can see I just got done breaking in the new recruit. I can already see how nicely he's going to fit in the 'frugalphile' environs.
planet10 said:
I don't care one way or the other whether or not the 4-tier system is left or not. But I do feel strongly that one's title should not be a function of their post count.
Back in the days of telnet chat rooms and "talkers," multiple user levels were given to people by the "moderators" of the chat rooms. For instance my personal favorite for over a year had about 6 levels of user and 4 levels of moderator (including the "jailed" zeros and the site owner). People were promoted by a moderator, for the most part (as I recall, the "guru users" had the ability to promote from "newbie" to "user"). People were demoted by the moderators when if they abused the commands/privilages their higher access level allowed.
Although it would be a monumental task at first, I could see something like this as being functional in the long run. The old titles could be used for "old time's sake," even. In this way the people who know their stuff but post only occasionally will be "enlightened" while those who only post in Everything Else or "comic relief" posts will remain "acolytes."
I do believe DIYAudio.com to be one of the better-run (both human and software) boards. Although I'm not a terribly active member and spend most of my time in just a few of the forums, I find that in general, this site is improving quite regularly and consistently. I give you
Anarchists should remember that anarchy only works in a utopia or when you are bigger than everyone else.
As a moderator of the budding Geek Group forums, I find discussions such as these to be very educational as to how I'd like to see our [The Geek Group's] own forum run.
Looking forward to these acclaimed changes!
Mark Broker
actually the contentious 'W' word was spelled out.
I know
But regarded/treated as a paria? nah - come on.
Now it`s You being a little "touchy" "touchy"
🙂 😉 No?
breaking in the new recruit
You must be dreaming
....... or maybe.........kidding?🙂
I know
But regarded/treated as a paria? nah - come on.
Now it`s You being a little "touchy" "touchy"
🙂 😉 No?breaking in the new recruit
You must be dreaming
....... or maybe.........kidding?🙂
cocolino said:actually the contentious 'W' word was spelled out.
I know
But regarded/treated as a paria? nah - come on.
Now it`s You being a little "touchy" "touchy"
breaking in the new recruit
You must be dreaming
ummm....whats a paria?
Here's an Idea!
Hey I got an idea.
When someone signs on as a new member, they get the rank (not to be mistaken for a moniker
) of Newbee, or something like that.
Than, after they’ve been around for a while, posting, they obtain the rank of Not-So-Newbee, or something like that. Than, after they have spent waaaayyy too many hours on the forum, posting their tail off, they reach the rank of Old-Bee, or something like that.
THAN, after they have come to live on the forum, because they don’t work any more, or they lost their spouse, or they generally don’t have a life outside the forum, because they were posting, they reach the lofty title of SuperBee (like the car or BrianGT), or something like that.
It can all be managed automatically with very little maintenance, and other members can see your title and be impressed, or not. It really doesn’t matter because some people don’t care about it anyway, it’s just there. THAN, when one person doesn’t like how someone else reached a particular rank,
you can take a trash to whole system, since it doesn’t matter to some people anyway.
Rodd Yamashita
Hey I got an idea.
When someone signs on as a new member, they get the rank (not to be mistaken for a moniker ) of Newbee, or something like that. Than, after they’ve been around for a while, posting, they obtain the rank of Not-So-Newbee, or something like that. Than, after they have spent waaaayyy too many hours on the forum, posting their tail off, they reach the rank of Old-Bee, or something like that. THAN, after they have come to live on the forum, because they don’t work any more, or they lost their spouse, or they generally don’t have a life outside the forum, because they were posting, they reach the lofty title of SuperBee (like the car or BrianGT), or something like that. It can all be managed automatically with very little maintenance, and other members can see your title and be impressed, or not. It really doesn’t matter because some people don’t care about it anyway, it’s just there. THAN, when one person doesn’t like how someone else reached a particular rank, you can take a trash to whole system, since it doesn’t matter to some people anyway. Rodd Yamashita
I could remember some of the enlightened gave me impressions
where sound can go to.
Imagine a Harry, Mrehorst or Peter comes in to talk about chassis sound.
If all were equal i would declare them to a need to be cured.
But they have done so many posts and pics with outtesting and pics and
so on - they deserve higher ranks!
Of course a newby should recognize this easiliy.
where sound can go to.
Imagine a Harry, Mrehorst or Peter comes in to talk about chassis sound.
If all were equal i would declare them to a need to be cured.
But they have done so many posts and pics with outtesting and pics and
so on - they deserve higher ranks!
Of course a newby should recognize this easiliy.
pinkmouse said:
ok,
one question are you going to keep the new changes? and how can i vote? and is it possible to see the votes? IE: whos winning/losing.
(3 questions actually 🙂 ) OH! on last question 🙂 whats a "W"?
-Moderators bring law and order to a chaotic world-
🙂
Titles will be staying as they are for the immediate future, however we have a new system planned that will be far more meaningful than the previous system. We've got alot of work to do in the back end to make this work but it will be worth it.
well i cant REALLY complain...this site IS free and it has given us DIY lcd plans...i will stay here as long as it doesnt get too complicated.
I`m not quite sure if I understand all this correctly.
Does this mean every single member here is about to be monitored and the posts be judged individually by the moderators and so to speak "manually" ?😱
If so, not only that it, as I assume, would be required to have full time moderators but also than IMO it REALLY means to give too much of control to too few people (except if there are 500 moderators out there - and who want`s this unless maybe grataku 😉) and I foresee that hell breaks loose at diyAudio.com.
Not that I fear so much it would be abused (credit to the IMO unanimous excellent moderator team🙂 ) but it may become far too single-ended and heavily biased when only a few moderators have to decide about the members title/status (what is good for Class-A amps. must not be Class-A for this board also) and variety of opinions very likely are going to be very restricted.
I wonder yet what it will be.😎
I like the new system as it encourages people to read more and learn who knows what they are talking about and whos advice to take. Granted, there is a lot of fluff posted on the site (yes, I am as guilty as anyone) but this encourages people to try and learn what they are doing rather than blindly following what the season members are talking about.
cocolino said:
The concept has merit, but creating a committee (it is beyond the scope of the mods to do the ranking) to evaluate posts etc, is asking too much (i'm sure the time would be better spent DIYing). If an automated system, taking the input of all members could be developed that achieved something like this, and was not easily skewed or subverted, then we would have something usable. The twice mentioned "check here if this post was valuable" might be one approach.
dave
cocolino said:
You sorta understand it. However, posts wouldn't be individually judged, but the overall theme of posts would be. Most people would remain "average joes," while the ones consistently posting good, helpful information would get noticed by the moderators and promoted accordingly. I'm sure the moderators currently have a fairly good list - mentally or otherwise - of the truely enlightened members.
Although I agree that favoritisms and biases *could* be applied, I really don't think it would happen. I have a fairly high opinion regarding the moderators here, and don't think they would stoop to those low levels. Besides, people would have an outcry. . . . 🙄
And like I said before, it would probably be a huge initial undertaking, but would be fairly quick and easy after establishment.
Anyways, I never said it was a GOOD idea 😀 I was merely attempting to answer Dave's call for suggestions.
Mark Broker
Guten Morgen Wombat!
Or perhaps also questionable?🙂
I actually had to ask my (good old) dictionary to get Your point - (this word was new for me)🙂
Mark,
I did not want to blame the moderators for possibly being biased - it`s human - it`s inevitable and has nothing to do with low level or good/bad will (IMO).
Re: members rank themselves
I'm still catching up on this thread, but find I miss the member rankings. It's sort of fun. Anyway, in a few posts you can learn who of the "enlightened" group just likes to type. I would like to see a link from the members name to his/her profile data. (Similar to the main forum groupings, see the originator, click their name and get their profile on demand. You could still see the post counts, etc.
Member feedback is an interesting idea, I like it. However, under ebay, you can see who provided the feedback and have equil oppertunity to provide feedback. With the point system, there is no direct response mechanism (Maybe, but how?) . Sort of lacking the "Threat of violence prevents violence" concept.
Rankings based on other member feedback is an interesting idea, and it warrants some thinking. Maybe a ranking of posts, not members should be added. That is, some threads are long, and many offtopic posts persist. Give Each member the oppertunity to rank each post as.. ..say "Off topic", "On topic" and then with "Good Content", "Neutral content", or "Poor Content". Then when reading a thread, you could filter to view "All" or "On Topic" posts and subfilter with "Good or Neutral or All Content".
Each members setting for that particular thread could be recalled for each thread when he or she logs on. In this way your peers could rate your posts on a per post basis (With no other form of feedback). You could implement this with some radio buttons on the page, and pop them up for each member as they read the pages (Similar to the message icons).
No offence to anyone, but some members post Junk on one post, and very good info on the next. Any junk posts would be weeded out by the first members to read them. Maybe a threshold or something could implemented, say at least 3 or 5 votes needed to deem a post junk or off topic. Any posts that don't cross the threshold would show up independent of users specific 'filter" options for that thread.
Ohh, here's a good idea.
Then, you could track a second threshold, of say 50 votes, and subtract a 'post count' from the 'total posts' count of the offending member 🙂 Or better yet, take two posts off... ...a poor post penality! (Just joking... ...I see a few of you shaking in your boots. ) 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
-Dan
cocolino said:
I'm still catching up on this thread, but find I miss the member rankings. It's sort of fun. Anyway, in a few posts you can learn who of the "enlightened" group just likes to type. I would like to see a link from the members name to his/her profile data. (Similar to the main forum groupings, see the originator, click their name and get their profile on demand. You could still see the post counts, etc.
Member feedback is an interesting idea, I like it. However, under ebay, you can see who provided the feedback and have equil oppertunity to provide feedback. With the point system, there is no direct response mechanism (Maybe, but how?) . Sort of lacking the "Threat of violence prevents violence" concept.
Rankings based on other member feedback is an interesting idea, and it warrants some thinking. Maybe a ranking of posts, not members should be added. That is, some threads are long, and many offtopic posts persist. Give Each member the oppertunity to rank each post as.. ..say "Off topic", "On topic" and then with "Good Content", "Neutral content", or "Poor Content". Then when reading a thread, you could filter to view "All" or "On Topic" posts and subfilter with "Good or Neutral or All Content".
Each members setting for that particular thread could be recalled for each thread when he or she logs on. In this way your peers could rate your posts on a per post basis (With no other form of feedback). You could implement this with some radio buttons on the page, and pop them up for each member as they read the pages (Similar to the message icons).
No offence to anyone, but some members post Junk on one post, and very good info on the next. Any junk posts would be weeded out by the first members to read them. Maybe a threshold or something could implemented, say at least 3 or 5 votes needed to deem a post junk or off topic. Any posts that don't cross the threshold would show up independent of users specific 'filter" options for that thread.
Ohh, here's a good idea.
Then, you could track a second threshold, of say 50 votes, and subtract a 'post count' from the 'total posts' count of the offending member 🙂 Or better yet, take two posts off... ...a poor post penality! (Just joking... ...I see a few of you shaking in your boots. ) 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
-Dan
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