Here is a update on my projector, like I said before I have recieved my lcd screen. I have started to build the case for my projector its pretty small 12X9X4.
Im using a 50 watt halogen bulb for my light source, but its only for test purposes and after using that bulb I know a 75 or 100 watt bulb may not be enough to light my projector, so I might use one of those halogen worklight bulbs at least 150 watts with a aluminium reflector made from a soup ladel. A condenser lense system from surplus shed will be used to focus the light, this system consist of two lense that are 70mm in dia. it also has a heat filter between the lense to reduce heat. Or I may just might make a system using two PCX lense which will be cheaper.
My projector lense system is still in the works, I have to order a lens that have a focul length of 75mm, since my lcd screen is so small.
I will post some pictures Monday or Tuesday.
Im using a 50 watt halogen bulb for my light source, but its only for test purposes and after using that bulb I know a 75 or 100 watt bulb may not be enough to light my projector, so I might use one of those halogen worklight bulbs at least 150 watts with a aluminium reflector made from a soup ladel. A condenser lense system from surplus shed will be used to focus the light, this system consist of two lense that are 70mm in dia. it also has a heat filter between the lense to reduce heat. Or I may just might make a system using two PCX lense which will be cheaper.
My projector lense system is still in the works, I have to order a lens that have a focul length of 75mm, since my lcd screen is so small.
I will post some pictures Monday or Tuesday.
I am curious to see the results from the tiny LCD. If the resolution is good it will make RPTV a lot easier.
David
David
Hi let me ressurect this awsome thread if you don't mind 😀
Just a couple of observations and maybe suggestions:
We have to crack down this design - just imagine a 40-50"
front projection lcd/mh lamp kit by diydisplyes or others under 1k$ that would be a paradise..
In terms of the design - a shinny funnel between the lamp and lcd is a must - I think Hezz utilizes this concept a lot.. and I think it appeared somehow on that old crt-projection tv diagram before in this thread..
Where I'm still at sea is the optics - specifically the small space between the projection screen and inner optics - would small 8-10" lcd help make the trick?
Also, an embeded PC is a must in this application - I'd say that a passively cooled ITX board (small) via epia 1ghz featuring digital TV PCI card and ATI remote are up to the 'average' TV task. For ultimate DVD viewing a dedicated HTPC is necessary though (in my current setup already placed in another room for noise reasons)..
Has anyone come up with a more defined optical setting that we can start with experimenting with these different projection screen materials and move the project further??
thanks
Just a couple of observations and maybe suggestions:
We have to crack down this design - just imagine a 40-50"
front projection lcd/mh lamp kit by diydisplyes or others under 1k$ that would be a paradise..
In terms of the design - a shinny funnel between the lamp and lcd is a must - I think Hezz utilizes this concept a lot.. and I think it appeared somehow on that old crt-projection tv diagram before in this thread..
Where I'm still at sea is the optics - specifically the small space between the projection screen and inner optics - would small 8-10" lcd help make the trick?
Also, an embeded PC is a must in this application - I'd say that a passively cooled ITX board (small) via epia 1ghz featuring digital TV PCI card and ATI remote are up to the 'average' TV task. For ultimate DVD viewing a dedicated HTPC is necessary though (in my current setup already placed in another room for noise reasons)..
Has anyone come up with a more defined optical setting that we can start with experimenting with these different projection screen materials and move the project further??
thanks
I'm sorry - forgot to include a small but important note on the OHP-RPTV version - accidentally I came across the following OHP design thread which might be usefull to JR and others as well:
- If I got it right he's using his LCD up side down because of antireflexive coating and is projecting backwards through a big mirror and it all looks quite similar to the guts of RPTV!
Diagram:
The entire thread:
http://diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26820&highlight=
- Pls. can anybody comment on the feasibility of this OHP setting for 40-50" RPTV set up mainly in terms of the short distance between the main mirror and screen ..
Btw. another page has nice intro to the RPTV basics and suggests using "sandwich" technology for the screen -> plexi and thin plastic fresnel lens sheeet attached to each other .. that big&thin foldable fresnel has also appeared at some eshop link earlier in this thread and was for cca70usd
RPTV overview&screen detail:
<b>dbc105 &</b> Please post some pictures
<b>rmccoll</b>
- If I got it right he's using his LCD up side down because of antireflexive coating and is projecting backwards through a big mirror and it all looks quite similar to the guts of RPTV!
Diagram:
The entire thread:
http://diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26820&highlight=
- Pls. can anybody comment on the feasibility of this OHP setting for 40-50" RPTV set up mainly in terms of the short distance between the main mirror and screen ..
Btw. another page has nice intro to the RPTV basics and suggests using "sandwich" technology for the screen -> plexi and thin plastic fresnel lens sheeet attached to each other .. that big&thin foldable fresnel has also appeared at some eshop link earlier in this thread and was for cca70usd
RPTV overview&screen detail:
<b>dbc105 &</b> Please post some pictures
<b>rmccoll</b>
Here is a picture of the lcd and the controller board, but the picture did not come out clear, I will have to buy another camera that takes better pictures. I'm not sure if this lcd will work, the resolution is great but, it is hard to find lenses that will magnify the lcd enough to fill my screen. The lenses I have found so far will only magnify the lcd to fill a 20" screen which is only half of what I'm looking for. If anyone is looking for 1.8" LCD, I'll sell this one $50.00. I paid $72.00 for it, I still have it's casing, backlit and speaker if you want it, they still work. The lcd will be great for front projection or car tv.
Another idea that has been on my mine is to use Red, Blue and Green LED the superbright ones and hook it up to a RGB source. Then take two mirrors, one vertical and one horizontal that vibrate at the frequency(refresh rate) coming from the RGB source. The LED will be projected on to a screen as one pixel, the mirrors will make the projected pixel fill the screen creating a picture.
Another idea that has been on my mine is to use Red, Blue and Green LED the superbright ones and hook it up to a RGB source. Then take two mirrors, one vertical and one horizontal that vibrate at the frequency(refresh rate) coming from the RGB source. The LED will be projected on to a screen as one pixel, the mirrors will make the projected pixel fill the screen creating a picture.
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rmccoll> there has been a suggestion in one old rptv thread to use some of those lenses from photography magnifiers -> they might posses the power to make the transition from small lcd to big rptv..
btw. would you pls. post more images of your set up the picture quality doesn't matter I'm more curious about the actual setting of your project. Thanks
On the OHP/RPTV thingy I got a preliminary response from its author (the german guy) and he will test it over the next week and post some results..
btw. would you pls. post more images of your set up the picture quality doesn't matter I'm more curious about the actual setting of your project. Thanks
On the OHP/RPTV thingy I got a preliminary response from its author (the german guy) and he will test it over the next week and post some results..
I have lens asembly out of lcd projectorsa which use three small lcd's these will work for your 1.8" lcd also.
Well I'm back from spring break and I got bad news the 1.8 lcd broke the lcd broke from the ribbon cable. I was trying the stand it up and it fell, but I caught the ac adatper cord( the white cord in the picture), when I caught it the lcd fell off.
😡 70 bucks down the drain.
I sold my Psone lcd to buy this one and know I'm going to buy the Psone lcd again because its my best choice.
😡 70 bucks down the drain.I sold my Psone lcd to buy this one and know I'm going to buy the Psone lcd again because its my best choice.
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Man that is sad. Money has been me hold up. Had to by my daughter another car, then all the car tags came due, suit for a funeral. Seems every week it's been something. I am still wanting to try an OHP displaying on the rear of the screen. You know, initial testing could be done with just the OHP and anything transparent. Get all that done then work on the LCD.
David
David
Money's been my holdup too, not to mention time. I'd love to start a project soon. I wish they'd make this thread permanent, and I also wish they'd stop moderating me soon, it's ANNOYING having moderation without any of the promised thread upgrades.
I think the moderation is dependent on the number of post you have made. It took a while before I made enough post for the moderation to stop. I guess its good though, helps keep down the riff-raff, anyone that is not really interested in the forum will not hang around that long. I was reading about a new chip that Intel is working on that is supposed to cut the cost of big screen in half. Also read about an up-coming screen type that is going to replace plasma at less than half the cost.
David
David
Glad to see you guys are trying to keep the thread up. Since I broke my 1.8 LCD, I bought a Sony Psone Lcd of Ebay for $60.00. It should be here sometime this week. I will show how to dismantle it for projection. I'm trying to build this projector cheap, at most $100.00. Early today I went to Lowes and bought 150w halogen flood light for $10.00. Its perfect for the LCD because the glass in front of the lamp is just under 5 inches so it will fit perfectly with the LCD. This will be that last part I will buy because money is getting tight with me to, I have to pay $100.00 room deposit for next year and pay for summer school. So when I get the LCD I will post pictures.
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rmccoll, where did you get that lense? It looks a lot like one of the lenses in the pioneer RPTV I have in the basement for parts. Well you got a start. I have so many things going on that I can't find the time to do anything.
David
David
dbc105, I got that lense from www.surplusshed.com. It is the same fijinon lense people are talking about.
Monday or Tuesday I should be getting 5 Psone lcd screen, I bought them on ebay for $33.00. I sold the 1.8in. lcd for $36.00 even though is was broken and near impossiable to fix someone still bought it.
I want be able to finish this project until I get out of school. Thankfully thats only two more weeks.
Monday or Tuesday I should be getting 5 Psone lcd screen, I bought them on ebay for $33.00. I sold the 1.8in. lcd for $36.00 even though is was broken and near impossiable to fix someone still bought it.
I want be able to finish this project until I get out of school. Thankfully thats only two more weeks.
Guys thanks for this update of your respective projects but would you be please so kind and post more pictures on the actual setting - such as frame, alignment of the light engine etc..
Just to get a broader picture from that all..
😡 )
Just to get a broader picture from that all..
😡 )
Panasonic Projection tv
I found this tv on the side of the road its 42".
It has three lens inside the screen is in good condition.
The reflector to my surprise is just some reflective plastic sheeting
looks more Christmas wrapping paper than a reflector
it powers up no picture any suggestions or is the lens any use.
I found this tv on the side of the road its 42".
It has three lens inside the screen is in good condition.
The reflector to my surprise is just some reflective plastic sheeting
looks more Christmas wrapping paper than a reflector
it powers up no picture any suggestions or is the lens any use.
How big are the lenses? If they are 4 or 5 inches keep them, they can be used to make another projector using a LCD. Also the keep the screen.
the lens are 4-5 inches cant get a accurate measurement, but they are more than 4"
looks like they are some kind of lens assembly.
I havent broken it down yet just looking from outside the box.
Doug
looks like they are some kind of lens assembly.
I havent broken it down yet just looking from outside the box.
Doug
delta 21 lens
I have opened it up and they are delta 21's these were made for 5"crt's.
there is 3 lens at least, in this configuration that I can tell.
Any know anything about these lens.
I have opened it up and they are delta 21's these were made for 5"crt's.
there is 3 lens at least, in this configuration that I can tell.
Any know anything about these lens.
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