reverber said:
Yep! That is exactly what I will be doing on my next version. The tripod legs work wonderfully as wands, and since 3 legs slide into each other for extension, I plan on using the same principle for replacement scrubbers. The medium wand will sit permanently on the table, and a plethora of different scrubbers, cleaners, pads will be available to slide over the wand and use. Very easy.
Hi. JimmyNeutron. Would it be possible to by 2 pre-cut rods of the tripod tube your are using on your cleaning machine? I would like to build one myself.
Thanks in advance...
SB
Thanks in advance...
SB
Audio Advisor sells some rplacement parts that may also come handy: http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/c...=Record+Cleaning+Machines&sel=1&CategoryID=49
Fluids...
Just a quick point; heard of the expression squeaky-clean? I remember a review some years ago where they checked out a number of proprietary cleaning fluids. They did a bit of a "clinical trial" & blind tested the results. They found that the fluids that relied on a high degree of detergent left the groove very clean & dry, the resultant blind test being a hard, brittle & raw edge to the sound. The fluid that came out on top of the bunch (sounding better than the untouched placebo) actually contained a very small amount of silicone lubricant in its make up. The reasoning behind their findings is fairly self evident, also; from a long term perspective, a lubricated record should last longer (obviously!) and any muck is far more easily slid out by the stylus rather than getting ground into the groove & causing permanent wear. My best efforts used a 50:50 water/IPA mix with a few drops of 3-in-1! (~100cl). The water shifts the muck; the IPA dissolves the grease (paw prints!).
Cheers - Jezz
Just a quick point; heard of the expression squeaky-clean? I remember a review some years ago where they checked out a number of proprietary cleaning fluids. They did a bit of a "clinical trial" & blind tested the results. They found that the fluids that relied on a high degree of detergent left the groove very clean & dry, the resultant blind test being a hard, brittle & raw edge to the sound. The fluid that came out on top of the bunch (sounding better than the untouched placebo) actually contained a very small amount of silicone lubricant in its make up. The reasoning behind their findings is fairly self evident, also; from a long term perspective, a lubricated record should last longer (obviously!) and any muck is far more easily slid out by the stylus rather than getting ground into the groove & causing permanent wear. My best efforts used a 50:50 water/IPA mix with a few drops of 3-in-1! (~100cl). The water shifts the muck; the IPA dissolves the grease (paw prints!).
Cheers - Jezz
flambolies
I like this project, but must point out that most vacuum motors
have open frame motors, and many actually port at least part of
the exhaust thru the motor for armature cooling.
Alcohol vapors, pressurized oxygen and exposed, sparking
armature brushes is a bit like praying for combustion, don't ya think?
An isolated vacuum stage, and an extended exhaust are critical if
you wish to use flammable cleansing agents.
Introducing the new Binford RCM 2005.
- Tim Taylor would be so proud... erhhhh???
I like this project, but must point out that most vacuum motors
have open frame motors, and many actually port at least part of
the exhaust thru the motor for armature cooling.
Alcohol vapors, pressurized oxygen and exposed, sparking
armature brushes is a bit like praying for combustion, don't ya think?
An isolated vacuum stage, and an extended exhaust are critical if
you wish to use flammable cleansing agents.
Introducing the new Binford RCM 2005.
- Tim Taylor would be so proud... erhhhh???
Actually, alcohol is not very cumbustable. It burns slower and cooler than say...gasoline, which would ignite if you farted in the same room. Also, the alcohol in the cleaning fluid is diluted with water by a factor of 10. Even if you lit a match and threw it on the liquid it still would not ignite (I tried this last night after reading Head-spez's post). But Head-spez makes a very valid point for those that do use a mixture which may be more flammable - be careful. Recently I added a small exhaust fan to my ARK to vent any fumes, or for water evaporation purposes, to the rear of the box. It comes on automatically when the vacuum is switched on and turns off with it too. That, as they say, solves that. 😉
Flambolies...
I would point out that I wasn't using any electromechanical gear; for really grimy disks (like the ones you might dig out of the darkest recesses of a charity shop) I'd use good old fashioned warm water, washing up detergent & a sponge followed by a darn good rinse. My cleaning fluid was applied in a very sparing quantity (~1 or 2ml) directly to the disk & spread with a Hunt EDA
carbon fibre jobby. In this small volume, the fluid evaporates in no time. In this respect I'd have to concur with Head_Spaz; a 50:50 IPA & Water mix is rather volatile - especially when you consider that Sambucca is 40%vol!
I would point out that I wasn't using any electromechanical gear; for really grimy disks (like the ones you might dig out of the darkest recesses of a charity shop) I'd use good old fashioned warm water, washing up detergent & a sponge followed by a darn good rinse. My cleaning fluid was applied in a very sparing quantity (~1 or 2ml) directly to the disk & spread with a Hunt EDA
carbon fibre jobby. In this small volume, the fluid evaporates in no time. In this respect I'd have to concur with Head_Spaz; a 50:50 IPA & Water mix is rather volatile - especially when you consider that Sambucca is 40%vol!
Wands
Hey Hey Jimmy, Found your design a couple of months ago while trying to find something to clean a bunch of 78s I got from Father-in-law. Got all the parts yesterday at Salvation Army 1/2 price sale. They had a broken Camera Tripod I got for $3, that has the triangle legs. As I am going to be using this for 45s, 33 1/3, and 78s. I plan on using the tripod legs as an adjustable length wand, with the pointy side down to minimize record contact with the brush. By sliding the smaller arm in and out of the box mount portion I should be able to clean any size playing surface. Plan on rolling a thin rubber o-ring onto the smaller leg and have the o-ring press against the larger piece to provide the vacuum seal.
Hey Hey Jimmy, Found your design a couple of months ago while trying to find something to clean a bunch of 78s I got from Father-in-law. Got all the parts yesterday at Salvation Army 1/2 price sale. They had a broken Camera Tripod I got for $3, that has the triangle legs. As I am going to be using this for 45s, 33 1/3, and 78s. I plan on using the tripod legs as an adjustable length wand, with the pointy side down to minimize record contact with the brush. By sliding the smaller arm in and out of the box mount portion I should be able to clean any size playing surface. Plan on rolling a thin rubber o-ring onto the smaller leg and have the o-ring press against the larger piece to provide the vacuum seal.
Good point Tubenut. In truth I only ever cleaned vinyl. I'd guess the same advise would apply to mineral based lubricants - silicon would be the obvious choice.
Doesanyone have jimmy neutron's instructions and pics for the rcm with the ice cream make and....every link i try is Dead. Please help i need this info i have tons of records to clean!
This needs more than pics anyway - it also needs a video!
Likewise - I looked for the pics in archive.org but no luck. Yet another example of why pics should be uploaded to diyaudio so they stay with the thread, rather than disappearing with some other host/domain (it's a bit of a pain and a little complicated to upload pics here, but it's not that bad).
And from the public profile, it appears the OP is long gone from the site:
Last Activity: 31st October 2007 05:54 PM
I've been wanting to make an automatic cleaner (that operates similar to an automatic turntable) for many years, as there's more to life than slaving over a hot shop-vac.
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