Re: Re: Deriving I2S from Sony CDP
I have a player that has CX23034 in front of the DAC and with bypassed CX23034 it still works.
Now I want to use the DAC of that player with CS8412 receiver with or without the CX23034 . Is it possible ?
The DAC uses bitclock, wordclock, data and L/R clock.
Or would it be easier with Yamahe receiver YM3623B ?
Why does the Yamaha use a crystal ? Better ?
rfbrw said:
No. You will not get I2S out of this DSP without a considerable amount of glue logic. The CX23034 is strictly a Sony format device and I mean Sony not Sony/BB.
For the input to the CX23034.
Pin5 = LRCK@44.1KHz
Pin6 = WCLK@88.2KHz
Pin7 = Serial Data (Two's Complement MSB first)
Pin8 = BCLK@48Fs (2.116800MHz)
You need the TDA1543A
ray.
I have a player that has CX23034 in front of the DAC and with bypassed CX23034 it still works.
Now I want to use the DAC of that player with CS8412 receiver with or without the CX23034 . Is it possible ?
The DAC uses bitclock, wordclock, data and L/R clock.
Or would it be easier with Yamahe receiver YM3623B ?
Why does the Yamaha use a crystal ? Better ?
Not really a name, it is inside a Teac ZD3000 and uses CX23035 -> CX23034 -> Teac chip which has inputs L/R clock, L/R clock inverted, data, serial clock, word clock -> 2x PCM53.
I post schematic.
I post schematic.
You need to reformat the output of the receiver to match the input or the output of the CX23034.That means going from a 64Fs clock domain to a 48Fs one.
Send 32 bit per frame data to a shift register, copy into another register and read out with new clock and 24 bit per frame ?
Isn't that recklocking as side effect ?
Also CS8412 provides only LRCLK or WCLK, not both at the same time.
Isn't that recklocking as side effect ?
Also CS8412 provides only LRCLK or WCLK, not both at the same time.
1. Use a Sony SPDIF receiver that outputs the necessary format.
2. Use a generic SPDIF receiver and some logic.
3. Design your own SPDIF receiver.
2. Use a generic SPDIF receiver and some logic.
3. Design your own SPDIF receiver.
rfbrw said:1. Use a Sony SPDIF receiver that outputs the necessary format.
Any recommended Sony receiver ? From where take out ? DAT ? Model ?
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rfbrw said:CXD1076
Is this the chip ill need for this Sony CDP620 to make is2 ? Excuse my lack of knowlege on this matter im new to this part of the audio field.
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rfbrw said:No. It was a response to post #49
I'm Sorry.
Can you help me with a schematic and some parts to get the is2 and my dac working with that sony. ? Is it realy worth it ?
Is there other things i can do for mods instead ?
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Ok im not going to take the external dac rout on this cd-player. I like this cd-player a-lot. Can any one suggest some mods i can do to it.. ie replace caps etc etc change op-amp's things that can life'n it up if possible. ? Id really appreciate it.
Modifying a circuit is not an easy task, it requires experience and is usually done by trial and error where parts are substituted in a circuit and listened to. In that way it's really hard to provide any specific recommendation for a given unit, uness one already performed proven mods.
Here's the link the mods I did on my LM37 transport: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=896134#post896134 , they worked out well and I can surely reccomend those ones. Regarding the Sony transport I would be clueless what to do.
This is mostly a reply to an e-mail enqiery you sent me a while back. I also like that particular Sony transport, but didn't do anything about it yet.
Here's the link the mods I did on my LM37 transport: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=896134#post896134 , they worked out well and I can surely reccomend those ones. Regarding the Sony transport I would be clueless what to do.
This is mostly a reply to an e-mail enqiery you sent me a while back. I also like that particular Sony transport, but didn't do anything about it yet.
Applies only if it's a normal Sony (In fact, every Sony CDPs I opened) :
CM made a circuit to convert 3 different EIAJ formats to I2S.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=58564
As for SPDIF, in a Sony CDP, it's not on the digital filter, but on the drive controller that you're going to find it. Try to find a DOUT pin on the transport PCB or the chip between the transport and D/F if there's one.
You have a lot of chances to find a DOUT pin on the DAC PCB and transport PCB. There's going to be an MD2 pin also, and you need to pull it high, make sure it's not presently grounded.
CM made a circuit to convert 3 different EIAJ formats to I2S.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=58564
As for SPDIF, in a Sony CDP, it's not on the digital filter, but on the drive controller that you're going to find it. Try to find a DOUT pin on the transport PCB or the chip between the transport and D/F if there's one.
You have a lot of chances to find a DOUT pin on the DAC PCB and transport PCB. There's going to be an MD2 pin also, and you need to pull it high, make sure it's not presently grounded.
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DragonMaster said:Applies only if it's a normal Sony (In fact, every Sony CDPs I opened) :
CM made a circuit to convert 3 different EIAJ formats to I2S.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=58564
As for SPDIF, in a Sony CDP, it's not on the digital filter, but on the drive controller that you're going to find it. Try to find a DOUT pin on the transport PCB or the chip between the transport and D/F if there's one.
You have a lot of chances to find a DOUT pin on the DAC PCB and transport PCB. There's going to be an MD2 pin also, and you need to pull it high, make sure it's not presently grounded.
I guess i could try.
DragonMaster said:You have a lot of chances to find a DOUT pin on the DAC PCB and transport PCB. There's going to be an MD2 pin also, and you need to pull it high, make sure it's not presently grounded.
Not with the CX23035.
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