How did they end up sounding? Looking at various RS100 builds for quad music or HT use coupled with my amigas.
Hey Dave, just finished building my enclosures. I haven't filled them yet and they sound like there is a veil over them. Lacking presence maybe... you know? Will that change with the introduction of the filling? Could it be something else that you think I could change considering the boxes are already made? I know I can only expect so much from a $40-50 speaker. Overall they are powerful for their size and take up a room! I appreciate your time!
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Hello Dave,
I came into possession of a pair of Dayton RS100-8 and, after reading these interesting messages from a few years ago, I would build the bass-reflex box design you suggested and posted here.
The only thing that leaves me in doubt is the volume of the cabinet. I tried to calculate this volume with several software programs and almost all of them indicated a value of about 5 liters, while your project requires only 3. Even on the Dayton Audio web page dedicated to the RS100-8 it is listed
OPTIMUM CABINET SIZE *
Vented Volume 0.17 ft.³
Vented F3 67 Hz
* Enclosure volume/F3 based on BassBox "optimum" calculations
My question is: to have the most powerful low end possible, is it better to use a 3 or 5 liter cabinet?
Thanks.
Red.
I came into possession of a pair of Dayton RS100-8 and, after reading these interesting messages from a few years ago, I would build the bass-reflex box design you suggested and posted here.
The only thing that leaves me in doubt is the volume of the cabinet. I tried to calculate this volume with several software programs and almost all of them indicated a value of about 5 liters, while your project requires only 3. Even on the Dayton Audio web page dedicated to the RS100-8 it is listed
OPTIMUM CABINET SIZE *
Vented Volume 0.17 ft.³
Vented F3 67 Hz
* Enclosure volume/F3 based on BassBox "optimum" calculations
My question is: to have the most powerful low end possible, is it better to use a 3 or 5 liter cabinet?
Thanks.
Red.
They won’t model this design. The modelers don’t take into account the aperiodic nature of the vent. MiniOnken boxes tend to be small.
It is possible, given how PE/Dayton source their products the driver this was designed coud be different than current versions, might even nhave a different OEM.
dave
Yes, the one in Post #19 and the dimensions modification for 12mm slot and wood tickness in Post #56.
In any case, since I have complete faith in your abilities, I wanted to ask you if this 3-liter project can highlight the performance of the Dayton Audio RS100-8 speakers, especially in the low end.
Thanks,
Red
In any case, since I have complete faith in your abilities, I wanted to ask you if this 3-liter project can highlight the performance of the Dayton Audio RS100-8 speakers, especially in the low end.
Thanks,
Red
@Redcircuits I have RS100-8 playing in TABAQ-like enclosure, that is MLTL type. Folded into bookshelf form factor, ~9L of internal volume, tuned... I think to 60Hz. Do not remember exactly as they are on loan in my friends place. 3L probably is not the volume I would start with. I played with Hornresp for exact tuning of the 200-1000Hz range.
They are capable of low end extension, the problem are harsh high mids and very upper range: typical metal cone breakup sounds.
They are capable of low end extension, the problem are harsh high mids and very upper range: typical metal cone breakup sounds.
A miniOnken does not go as low as possible. But in trade you get elegant, well-defined bottom.The more aperiodic tuning means they are more tolerant of changes of T/S with dynamics and how high you set the wick.
If you want to maximize bottom, an ML-TL or Frugel-Horn Lite.
dave
Dave, unfortunately ML-TL and Frugel-horn require cabinets that are too big and complex for my purposes.
I would always lean towards building your proposed design in Post#19 and #56 above.
I just wanted to ask if a 5L cabinet could produce better bass than the original 3L.
Thanks again!
Red.
I would always lean towards building your proposed design in Post#19 and #56 above.
I just wanted to ask if a 5L cabinet could produce better bass than the original 3L.
Thanks again!
Red.
Dave, by the way, also evaluating the possibility of building a different type of speaker, I found on https://frugal-phile.com/ this link: http://www.wodendesign.com/downloads/Woden-BabyLabs-241018.pdf.
I particularly appreciated the Falcon, Bloodhound, The Stinger and Skyflash projects for their astonishing simplicity and compactness. Would it be possible to use or adapt one of these four projects to my Dayton Audio RS100-8?
Thanks anyway for your invaluable help!
I particularly appreciated the Falcon, Bloodhound, The Stinger and Skyflash projects for their astonishing simplicity and compactness. Would it be possible to use or adapt one of these four projects to my Dayton Audio RS100-8?
Thanks anyway for your invaluable help!
I was going to mention BabyLabs, people really like them.
Each one is specific to a driver. You can check if anyone has had success, but @Scottmoose might weigh in.
dave
Each one is specific to a driver. You can check if anyone has had success, but @Scottmoose might weigh in.
dave
Dave, while waiting for Scottmoose's answer to my last post kindly asked by you, I found in an old thread from 2014 https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/woden-design-3-box-designs-babylabs-more.247904/page-9 Post#167, xrk971's idea to use the Dayton RS100 in the Woden-BabyLabs "The Lance" because "it may be close in specs to work". The size and volume over 4L seem very interesting: what do you think?
Scott would have put them into his sim before suggesting that. As a labyrinth it is fairly tolerant.
dave
dave
I have successfully and happily built the Slot Reflex speakers with Dayton RS100-8 described in this thread, Post #19, and so I want to thank Dave again for making his project available. Now I would like to ask Dave if I can use this same enclosure for the Beyma 4FR40. Is it possible to use these speakers without any modification to the cabinet or is some change necessary? I would love to hear your thoughts and suggestions. Thank you so much!
Slot-Reflex with Beyma 4FR40
Dave, I have successfully and happily built the Slot-Reflex speakers with Dayton RS100-8 described in this thread, Post #19, and so I want to thank you again for making this project available. Now I would like to ask if I can use this same cabinet for the Beyma 4FR40 drivers. Is it possible to use these speakers with no modification to the cabinet or is some change necessary? I would love to hear your thoughts and suggestions. Thank you so much!
Flavio - Redcircuits -
https://www.beyma.com/en/products/c/full-range/104FR408/altavoz-4fr40-8-oh/
Dave, I have successfully and happily built the Slot-Reflex speakers with Dayton RS100-8 described in this thread, Post #19, and so I want to thank you again for making this project available. Now I would like to ask if I can use this same cabinet for the Beyma 4FR40 drivers. Is it possible to use these speakers with no modification to the cabinet or is some change necessary? I would love to hear your thoughts and suggestions. Thank you so much!
Flavio - Redcircuits -
https://www.beyma.com/en/products/c/full-range/104FR408/altavoz-4fr40-8-oh/