My HDD doesnt seem to be spinning down when I set the timer to 15 minutes. Am I doing something wrong? I'm pretty sure I saved and rebooted, as I doubt the setting would come back visiting the page again later. But with browser cache, who knows? Is there a second tick box that needs to be set to get this to work? Like, do I have to suspend the network too, or else the router will keep it up?...
My 500G WD Blue drive has low hours, so I'm not really worried. It'd be nice to have that functioning though, as long as it's an offered option.
I think Daphile is a really great system - so much of it works so well for me - I know it's hard to get everything perfect in everyone's concept of how things should work. I recommend it to those asking "what's a good streamer?" !!
Here it is, with a USB connected Zoudio amp via XMOS USB to I2S converter. 2G DDR3 memory; 1G would drop the server overnight and I'd have to restart to get it back. Wireless is a little Ralink USB dongle in the back.
My 500G WD Blue drive has low hours, so I'm not really worried. It'd be nice to have that functioning though, as long as it's an offered option.
I think Daphile is a really great system - so much of it works so well for me - I know it's hard to get everything perfect in everyone's concept of how things should work. I recommend it to those asking "what's a good streamer?" !!
Here it is, with a USB connected Zoudio amp via XMOS USB to I2S converter. 2G DDR3 memory; 1G would drop the server overnight and I'd have to restart to get it back. Wireless is a little Ralink USB dongle in the back.
DRONE7, MSHAVS and Vdi_Nenna:
Sorry for having dropped off the map for the past week or two. I'm still having trouble with my Daphile library, but I'm also having a few aggravating but minor health issues which are making concentrating on my audio system difficult. Nothing major, hopefully all resolved in the next 4-5 weeks, but I'll likely be offline for a bit. I'll circle back when my head's in the game.
Stay healthy,
Scott
Sorry for having dropped off the map for the past week or two. I'm still having trouble with my Daphile library, but I'm also having a few aggravating but minor health issues which are making concentrating on my audio system difficult. Nothing major, hopefully all resolved in the next 4-5 weeks, but I'll likely be offline for a bit. I'll circle back when my head's in the game.
Stay healthy,
Scott
My system is based around PaXoverRack which requires Pulseaudio.
I was looking into having it mounted on a ROG Strix USB stick for a dual boot.
Is that something Daphile can manage?
I was looking into having it mounted on a ROG Strix USB stick for a dual boot.
Is that something Daphile can manage?
Forgive me if this has been asked before, I tried some search and couldn't find it.
I have daphile up and running well off of an mSATA drive. On another computer, I have an empty mSATA slot, an SSD drive and an emmc drive with Windows on it.
If I place that mSATA into the new computer and boot off of it (changing bios boot order), will daphile take control of all the existing drives? Hopefully I can tell it not to touch the emmc drive so I can keep windows
I have daphile up and running well off of an mSATA drive. On another computer, I have an empty mSATA slot, an SSD drive and an emmc drive with Windows on it.
If I place that mSATA into the new computer and boot off of it (changing bios boot order), will daphile take control of all the existing drives? Hopefully I can tell it not to touch the emmc drive so I can keep windows
Daphile is its own system. If you use this 'n that, Daphile will either see it or not as an output device. It's pretty easy to try; it'll either show as an output device - or not.My system is based around PaXoverRack which requires Pulseaudio.
I was looking into having it mounted on a ROG Strix USB stick for a dual boot.
Is that something Daphile can manage?
No. It'll know about the other drives, but you have to set them up explicitly within Daphile for it to touch them. If you happened to have, say, some Music on the Windows disk, you could point Daphile to it and it would access just that directory and be set only for the purpose of playing Music.Forgive me if this has been asked before, I tried some search and couldn't find it.
I have daphile up and running well off of an mSATA drive. On another computer, I have an empty mSATA slot, an SSD drive and an emmc drive with Windows on it.
If I place that mSATA into the new computer and boot off of it (changing bios boot order), will daphile take control of all the existing drives? Hopefully I can tell it not to touch the emmc drive so I can keep windows
Hey, does anyone here have experience with Daphile and Denafrips Pontus II? Have a lot of problems resulting digital interference and distortion. Actually, I also tried Vortexbox, but that was actually even more problematic.
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Hello all.
I am a very happy daphile user. For me, it's the best software I've used from a sound quality perspective. I have it running on a bmax b1 plus with a farad super3 lpsu.
In my case there is a good improvement when running from memory. Only a problem: it takes like 60s to get an album into memory. During that time sox is consuming almost 100% cpu, even when the original file is wav. Any ideas how to speed up without using a faster computer? The bmax b1 plus used a N3350 cpu, very low power.
Thank you
I am a very happy daphile user. For me, it's the best software I've used from a sound quality perspective. I have it running on a bmax b1 plus with a farad super3 lpsu.
In my case there is a good improvement when running from memory. Only a problem: it takes like 60s to get an album into memory. During that time sox is consuming almost 100% cpu, even when the original file is wav. Any ideas how to speed up without using a faster computer? The bmax b1 plus used a N3350 cpu, very low power.
Thank you
hi deepfreeze
send the album from a second pc over the network to daphile-ramdisc. its very fast ,only few seconds!
send the album from a second pc over the network to daphile-ramdisc. its very fast ,only few seconds!
Hello everyone, I hope you've been enjoying the holidays and had some time to pursue diy audio projects. 🙂 I'm a new member here and could use a bit of advice about whether I should try to set up Daphile on a old box or if it's not really suited for my needs. I have about 1000 CDs that are generally in excellent condition that I would like to rip as FLAC files with as little fuss as possible. I've attempted to do this before using different audio rippers but always don't seem to get very far--I want to make sure that I get the ripping and metadata done right the first time and can easily back up my entire music collection to an external drive once it's been ripped to FLAC. Daphile appeals to me because it has "AccurateRip," whereas as most rippers don't and Daphile acts as a music server as well.
I apologise for my lack of knowledge in advance but I'm not really a true audiophile with high-end equipment, so my first question is can I use Daphile to rip CDs with an old box connected to it, or do I have to use a laptop or phone in order to access the computer with Daphile on it--it's written that it works as a "headless" client, so does it need to be kept on 24/7 to keep the network up and running and do I need to use some other device to access it? Can it be used without a USB/DAC? I'd like get an affordable one in the future but my speakers are pretty basic, so I don't know if that would really improve sound quality. Also, this part from the Daphile setup manual guide worries me--"If you are using an audio device that is connected to speakers without an external amplifier you must turn on the “Settings Audio Devices [audio device] → → → Volume control” setting"with default value Off – Bitperfect playback” you might even destroy your speakers if there isn't any volume control." I don't have an external amp and would use either my phone, laptop, or an old rig connected to a monitor if it can be used this way...
I've used Asunder on Linux before and really like it due to its simplicity but it doesn't use AccurateRip and I don't think it takes one's specific CD drive's offsets into account. I don't know how critical that is in my case but people seem to write a lot about getting the correct calibration and offsets before ripping a collection... Also, some of the metadata seemed a bit off when I played it later--I really want to avoid correcting and retagging metadata later.
I'd really appreciate any advice that you might have about my plans to use Daphile or if I should go with another solution.
Cheers!
I apologise for my lack of knowledge in advance but I'm not really a true audiophile with high-end equipment, so my first question is can I use Daphile to rip CDs with an old box connected to it, or do I have to use a laptop or phone in order to access the computer with Daphile on it--it's written that it works as a "headless" client, so does it need to be kept on 24/7 to keep the network up and running and do I need to use some other device to access it? Can it be used without a USB/DAC? I'd like get an affordable one in the future but my speakers are pretty basic, so I don't know if that would really improve sound quality. Also, this part from the Daphile setup manual guide worries me--"If you are using an audio device that is connected to speakers without an external amplifier you must turn on the “Settings Audio Devices [audio device] → → → Volume control” setting"with default value Off – Bitperfect playback” you might even destroy your speakers if there isn't any volume control." I don't have an external amp and would use either my phone, laptop, or an old rig connected to a monitor if it can be used this way...
I've used Asunder on Linux before and really like it due to its simplicity but it doesn't use AccurateRip and I don't think it takes one's specific CD drive's offsets into account. I don't know how critical that is in my case but people seem to write a lot about getting the correct calibration and offsets before ripping a collection... Also, some of the metadata seemed a bit off when I played it later--I really want to avoid correcting and retagging metadata later.
I'd really appreciate any advice that you might have about my plans to use Daphile or if I should go with another solution.
Cheers!
Thanks Dewy1.hi deepfreeze
send the album from a second pc over the network to daphile-ramdisc. its very fast ,only few seconds!
I am also looking to avoid SOX when the original file is WAV. I will try looking in the configuration .....
If SoX is not resampling, there is no reason it should consume a lot of CPU. Should it be used for conversion to wav, it takes almost no CPU. Unless lots of tracks are decompressed to wav to RAM prior to playback (which I do not understand a reason for not keeping the tracks in the original format and uncompressing on the fly during playback).
Well, there was something about the sound of my Daphile system, shown above with the "Harbor Touch" SFF PC. I moved my listening position (Chair), changed the filters in the amp DSP, moved the speakers around - couldnt get it to improve. Then I went back to the Acer Aspire 1 netbook as source hardware, which was what I was using before I thought it'd be nifty to use the SFF PC. SQ came back to how I remembered it.
Be mindful of the hardware you choose to run this on. Just because something apparently has a more powerful IA processor, or a nicer looking case, ultimately has little to do with the SQ arriving at your speaker terminals. Some of it is in the power supply that runs it - and I'd say you have to consider all the little bits that make all the little voltages required by the system motherboard - not just the main brick feeding.
Of course doing the best you can with the brick part helps, so when someone says "with a farad super3 psu", I get that. If someone were to say "I tested 5 different SFF boxes running Daphile for SQ using the same DAC" I for one would be interested in the results, even if subjective. What I have no idea how to do, is predict how it's going to sound by hardware flavor, across all the form factors that have usable IA inside.
I have one data point that says the laptop sounds better. If I can get it to go on the Chromebook I have, that'd be 2 - if the SQ follows suit. That Chromebook has a 10 hour battery and will play my ripped music collection using Linux Mint through the same USB connection as Daphile. It should work - goes to the point where it's going to give the hotspot IP for setup; never does.
Be mindful of the hardware you choose to run this on. Just because something apparently has a more powerful IA processor, or a nicer looking case, ultimately has little to do with the SQ arriving at your speaker terminals. Some of it is in the power supply that runs it - and I'd say you have to consider all the little bits that make all the little voltages required by the system motherboard - not just the main brick feeding.
Of course doing the best you can with the brick part helps, so when someone says "with a farad super3 psu", I get that. If someone were to say "I tested 5 different SFF boxes running Daphile for SQ using the same DAC" I for one would be interested in the results, even if subjective. What I have no idea how to do, is predict how it's going to sound by hardware flavor, across all the form factors that have usable IA inside.
I have one data point that says the laptop sounds better. If I can get it to go on the Chromebook I have, that'd be 2 - if the SQ follows suit. That Chromebook has a 10 hour battery and will play my ripped music collection using Linux Mint through the same USB connection as Daphile. It should work - goes to the point where it's going to give the hotspot IP for setup; never does.
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It's hard to answer without knowing what you have in your stable, for computing equipment. With Daphile, generally you need a home network (wired or wireless) and another device to access it. Like a PC, phone, MacBook, Linux system - anything that can display and interact with a webpage - which is Daphile's interface once it's been setup on your home network.Hello everyone, I hope you've been enjoying the holidays and had some time to pursue diy audio projects. 🙂 I'm a new member here and could use a bit of advice about whether I should try to set up Daphile on a old box or if it's not really suited for my needs. I have about 1000 CDs that are generally in excellent condition that I would like to rip as FLAC files with as little fuss as possible. I've attempted to do this before using different audio rippers but always don't seem to get very far--I want to make sure that I get the ripping and metadata done right the first time and can easily back up my entire music collection to an external drive once it's been ripped to FLAC. Daphile appeals to me because it has "AccurateRip," whereas as most rippers don't and Daphile acts as a music server as well.
I apologise for my lack of knowledge in advance but I'm not really a true audiophile with high-end equipment, so my first question is can I use Daphile to rip CDs with an old box connected to it, or do I have to use a laptop or phone in order to access the computer with Daphile on it--it's written that it works as a "headless" client, so does it need to be kept on 24/7 to keep the network up and running and do I need to use some other device to access it? Can it be used without a USB/DAC? I'd like get an affordable one in the future but my speakers are pretty basic, so I don't know if that would really improve sound quality. Also, this part from the Daphile setup manual guide worries me--"If you are using an audio device that is connected to speakers without an external amplifier you must turn on the “Settings Audio Devices [audio device] → → → Volume control” setting"with default value Off – Bitperfect playback” you might even destroy your speakers if there isn't any volume control." I don't have an external amp and would use either my phone, laptop, or an old rig connected to a monitor if it can be used this way...
I've used Asunder on Linux before and really like it due to its simplicity but it doesn't use AccurateRip and I don't think it takes one's specific CD drive's offsets into account. I don't know how critical that is in my case but people seem to write a lot about getting the correct calibration and offsets before ripping a collection... Also, some of the metadata seemed a bit off when I played it later--I really want to avoid correcting and retagging metadata later.
I'd really appreciate any advice that you might have about my plans to use Daphile or if I should go with another solution.
Cheers!
You can turn it on and off at will, when powered back on it'll connect to your network again via DHCP.
You can use it without a USB DAC. It'll play through the one in whatever hardware instance you're running it on, i.e. the headphone jack will output music.
You can enable the volume control in Daphile with a simple checkbox click. Then you'll have a volume control and no worries...
Daphile doesnt need a screen on the hardware that's hosting it. A little convenient when first setting it up to see what's going on, but of almost no use when running it as intended. There is however a UI option, where Daphile will put up a local display - you'll need a mouse to interact with it, or a trackpad, or (possibly) a touch screen. Unsure if you can rip via this interface, or just play.
Daphile will host its music content to any other system on the network, so you can copy your ripped CDs to another machine, or via another machine to a backup drive. I've never ripped using Daphile; I use EAC on a Windows machine, FWIW. All my music resides on a NAS. I do have a local copy on my Daphile system - just to see if that made a SQ difference versus streaming it over my home network from the NAS. Nonsense? Some say it's not.
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HelloWell, there was something about the sound of my Daphile system, shown above with the "Harbor Touch" SFF PC. I moved my listening position (Chair), changed the filters in the amp DSP, moved the speakers around - couldnt get it to improve. Then I went back to the Acer Aspire 1 netbook as source hardware, which was what I was using before I thought it'd be nifty to use the SFF PC. SQ came back to how I remembered it.
Be mindful of the hardware you choose to run this on. Just because something apparently has a more powerful IA processor, or a nicer looking case, ultimately has little to do with the SQ arriving at your speaker terminals. Some of it is in the power supply that runs it - and I'd say you have to consider all the little bits that make all the little voltages required by the system motherboard - not just the main brick feeding.
Of course doing the best you can with the brick part helps, so when someone says "with a farad super3 psu", I get that. If someone were to say "I tested 5 different SFF boxes running Daphile for SQ using the same DAC" I for one would be interested in the results, even if subjective. What I have no idea how to do, is predict how it's going to sound by hardware flavor, across all the form factors that have usable IA inside.
I have one data point that says the laptop sounds better. If I can get it to go on the Chromebook I have, that'd be 2 - if the SQ follows suit. That Chromebook has a 10 hour battery and will play my ripped music collection using Linux Mint through the same USB connection as Daphile. It should work - goes to the point where it's going to give the hotspot IP for setup; never does.
I find jjasniew experience consistent with mine. Previously I had another small computer with more powerful specs and with more power consumption (intel 6100u). I tried other software players including roon, jriver, etc, and finally settled with daphile. Changing to the new computer (bmax b1 plus) was a very good improvement, but to achieve optimal results I changed the speakers position, seating position, etc, and ended with a blanket covering a flat panel tv that is in between the speakers.
I guess the better or worst result depends on lots of things. When time allows I will try other small computers and maybe LPSUs.
you basically describe the old law of "tweaking the sound with the placement of your speakers" as I learned a long time ago (being in the 2nd half of 50 🙂) in the days all equipment was still analogue. Here is a link to some YT-videos of my dutch fellowman Hans Beekhuyzen who explains how you can place your speakers in your listeningroom to optmize the sound quality: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hans+beekhuyzen+speaker+placementHello
I find jjasniew experience consistent with mine. Previously I had another small computer with more powerful specs and with more power consumption (intel 6100u). I tried other software players including roon, jriver, etc, and finally settled with daphile. Changing to the new computer (bmax b1 plus) was a very good improvement, but to achieve optimal results I changed the speakers position, seating position, etc, and ended with a blanket covering a flat panel tv that is in between the speakers.
I guess the better or worst result depends on lots of things. When time allows I will try other small computers and maybe LPSUs.
Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. I'd like to use my old revamped HP desktop computer as a music server using Daphile--it's got two HDs with 500 gbs each and I'd connect it to a monitor and use the ethernet port to have a wired connection to my router. If possible, I'd like to install Daphile on one of those drives and also store my music collection on the same drive and use the second drive for another Linux distro if Daphile plays nicely in a multi-boot environment. I have a relatively new MacBook and iPhone which I could use to access the computer with Daphile on it but I'd like to be able to use the HP system to rip CDs and if possible, play the FLAC files directly from my old desktop machine.It's hard to answer without knowing what you have in your stable, for computing equipment. With Daphile, generally you need a home network (wired or wireless) and another device to access it. Like a PC, phone, MacBook, Linux system - anything that can display and interact with a webpage - which is Daphile's interface once it's been setup on your home network.
The reason I want to use Daphile to rip my CDs is that it uses AccurateRip--I really want to do this correctly and not have some unpleasant surprises later on. If anyone has any advice about ripping CDs on Daphile and what to do/not do concerning metadata, I'd really appreciate hearing your suggestions. Eventually, I'd like to upgrade my speakers and get a USB DAC to really improve the sound quality but that's something for the future. 😉
Can you point me to where I can enable this UI? When enabled, can I concurrently access daphile in the normal way, through a web browser?Daphile doesnt need a screen on the hardware that's hosting it. A little convenient when first setting it up to see what's going on, but of almost no use when running it as intended. There is however a UI option, where Daphile will put up a local display - you'll need a mouse to interact with it, or a trackpad, or (possibly) a touch screen. Unsure if you can rip via this interface, or just play.
Can you point me to where I can enable this UI? When enabled, can I concurrently access daphile in the normal way, through a web browser?
Dug through every menu to find it and it was right there in General. It should show on my Acer's screen after next reboot. Of course, you can use the Web based access in addition to that UI. So you could start music playing at the Dahile machine, stop or change what's playing later from your phone.
I'm not seeing a menu supporting cd rips on that UI...
You can install Daphile on a HDD and I'm pretty sure it'll dual boot with another OS. It's UEFI, so the other OS will have to be a UEFI booting one as well. You could switch the boot order in BIOS to determine which one boots in the architecture you're thinking of.Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. I'd like to use my old revamped HP desktop computer as a music server using Daphile--it's got two HDs with 500 gbs each and I'd connect it to a monitor and use the ethernet port to have a wired connection to my router. If possible, I'd like to install Daphile on one of those drives and also store my music collection on the same drive and use the second drive for another Linux distro if Daphile plays nicely in a multi-boot environment. I have a relatively new MacBook and iPhone which I could use to access the computer with Daphile on it but I'd like to be able to use the HP system to rip CDs and if possible, play the FLAC files directly from my old desktop machine.
The reason I want to use Daphile to rip my CDs is that it uses AccurateRip--I really want to do this correctly and not have some unpleasant surprises later on. If anyone has any advice about ripping CDs on Daphile and what to do/not do concerning metadata, I'd really appreciate hearing your suggestions. Eventually, I'd like to upgrade my speakers and get a USB DAC to really improve the sound quality but that's something for the future. 😉
Wired connection is a little easier setup for Daphile. Of course, the Chromebook I have doesnt have a wired ethernet port... You should do fine with that HP system running Daphile. You'll be playing your rips in no time! Plug in a USB DAC and you can play one playlist through it, another completely different playlist through the headphone port. If it can do two, I'd assume it'll support a different music stream to every audio sink (DAC...) you care to plug into it.
Having never used the ripper, I cant comment on anything about it.
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