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#161
Hurtig said:
Bump....
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Why the need to bump a thread where the last replies had no value?
Maybe the lack of answers is a statement of lack of interest?

It is so obvious that this is a sales thread in sheeps clothing, just to prone if there is interest and spread the word.

I can only quote the previous statements...

and yes... I too am ashamed of being Danish (@readers please do not judge Danes by the schizophrenic ramblings in this thread 🙁 ).
 
#162
Havoc08 said:


and yes... I too am ashamed of being Danish
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That remark is even more silly than this whole thread.

This girl lives in Denmark... (yes, I know, Polish parents... but still in Denmark). 😀
 

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#163
Havoc08 said:



Why the need to bump a thread where the last replies had no value?
Maybe the lack of answers is a statement of lack of interest?

It is so obvious that this is a sales thread in sheeps clothing, just to prone if there is interest and spread the word.

I can only quote the previous statements...

and yes... I too am ashamed of being Danish (@readers please do not judge Danes by the schizophrenic ramblings in this thread 🙁 ).
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A sales thread of 10 Pcs. of which hardly anything is left :xeye:
We simply just realized that this DAC cannot be build by hand, and that´s about it. It is probably impossible to assemble the unit for others than those who designed the PCB.
Therefor a new and more simple design, with as few drawbacks as possible, will be made with both schematics, layout and partslist.
Until then you´ll have to be patient and realize that this design will not be public, as we simply did not do any updated schematics for it. And we don´t want to spend our time doing so.
Your bad feelings about that unfortunately cannot be considered.
You can have a PCB, and evt. a high quality enclosure, if you want one, but there will be no written instructions for assembly, and no support. You can have values, types and makes for the components, but from there on you´ll be on your own.
Close up photos of a completed PCB can be e-mailed to you though.
On top of that, you´ll have no schematics, as they do not exist, and never will, unless someone would like to "back engineer" the DAC themselves.

This is pretty much the way things are at the moment.
If the project in spite of this, still is of any interest to you, don´t hesitate to tell us. If not, we wish you good luck in finding another project, that might satisfy the needs of yours, or maybe even you could build a DAC of your own, and then provide the forum with flawless schematics and gerberfiles.
Good luck to you!
 
#166
ikoflexer said:
Thank you for the effort but... did I ask for a part of a well known schematic available on the web? No, I didn't, but that's what you gave me. I have absolutely no trust in anything that someone with your attitude has to offer.

In summary, you have no product to sell, no questions on a design to ask, no schematic to show. What is the point of the thread?

Regards.
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As Kurt von Kubik wrote, you are welcome to have a PCB and a partlist directly from me. I can not help you with the chassis. Maybe Kurt von Kubik can.
Also, as Kurt von Kubik wrote, there will be NO support! Want one, or would you like to wait for the DIY friendly version including support??
 
#167
Hurtig said:

I could think that your main goal in this discussion is to talk bad about our intentensions.
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Since I've already wasted time on this thread, another minute won't break the bank.

I see nothing bad in what I said. Perhaps my mistake was to summarize this thread. OK, fair enough. I will pose this as a questions instead:

1) do you have a product I can buy? If you do, please point to how it can be bought

If the answer to 1) is no, then let me ask this:

2) do you have a design that you would like to exchange ideas about with other diy people, on this forum? If yes, it is impossible without schematics.

You made me curious with your shunt regulator claims. It turns out you are unwilling to show it. It's fine with me. But man, have the guts to just say "I do not want to show it," please don't waste people's time with beating around the bush.

If you want to sell anything, I have no problem with that. If you don't want to share your ideas, I also don't have a problem with that. IMHO people should do what they want with the fruit of their labour. But can you be straight about it? Say yes when you mean yes, no when you mean no.


However: We will provide schematics, as soon as we have finished making the project DIY-friendly.
Most likely, we will also provide full PCB-file package, so that anybody can make the DAC. Again... we have to make the project DIY-friendly.
Please tell me which part of this, you do not understand.
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The only thing I don't understand is why you decide who can and who cannot implement something. You do not give the impression that you actually care about diy beginners. Instead, the impression you give is one of hiding something. And that's fine with me too. But you're hurting your own credibility in a major way. We're not five year olds.

For the record, I am happy with the regulator I'm using, and believe it to be very hard to beat in terms of performance. There is a design, schematic, and implementation. It was simple curiosity for me, nothing more.

Regards.
 
#168
ikoflexer said:


Since I've already wasted time on this thread, another minute won't break the bank.

I see nothing bad in what I said. Perhaps my mistake was to summarize this thread. OK, fair enough. I will pose this as a questions instead:

1) do you have a product I can buy? If you do, please point to how it can be bought

If the answer to 1) is no, then let me ask this:

2) do you have a design that you would like to exchange ideas about with other diy people, on this forum? If yes, it is impossible without schematics.

You made me curious with your shunt regulator claims. It turns out you are unwilling to show it. It's fine with me. But man, have the guts to just say "I do not want to show it," please don't waste people's time with beating around the bush.

If you want to sell anything, I have no problem with that. If you don't want to share your ideas, I also don't have a problem with that. IMHO people should do what they want with the fruit of their labour. But can you be straight about it? Say yes when you mean yes, no when you mean no.



The only thing I don't understand is why you decide who can and who cannot implement something. You do not give the impression that you actually care about diy beginners. Instead, the impression you give is one of hiding something. And that's fine with me too. But you're hurting your own credibility in a major way. We're not five year olds.

For the record, I am happy with the regulator I'm using, and believe it to be very hard to beat in terms of performance. There is a design, schematic, and implementation. It was simple curiosity for me, nothing more.

Regards.
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First of all.... :
- 1: No, we do not have a product that you can buy. We do have 10 PCB's, but these are most likely already sold.
- 2: Yes, we would like to share the design, as soon as the schematics are done.

I don't want to waste more time discussing, but will try once again to explain what we intend to do. If you still do not understand, I really do not think that I can help.

Here it goes:
The project has always been intended to be DIY. Now when the design is finished, we realize that it is not the DIY friendly.
At this tie, we have a DAC for ourselves, and really do not need to spend more time. But we decided to spend more time, making the design DIY friendly, only to ensure, that more people can enjoy the design.

But it seems that this extra time is wasted, if people like you don't like the idea of us posting the DIY friendly version.
So I guess we have 2 choices:
1) Stop this thread and enjoy our own DAC.
2) Spend the time making the design DIY friendly and post the complete documentation, like schematic, Gerber and BOM.

So please let me know. What to do????
 
#170
Hurtig said:

But it seems that this extra time is wasted, if people like you don't like the idea of us posting the DIY friendly version.
So I guess we have 2 choices:
1) Stop this thread and enjoy our own DAC.
2) Spend the time making the design DIY friendly and post the complete documentation, like schematic, Gerber and BOM.
So please let me know. What to do????
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Please do what you wish. No one has the right to tell you what to do. As far as people's wishes go, people were very clear and I think I too.

Best wishes.
 
#171
rfbrw said:


This I find baffling. What particular aspect is not DIY friendly. Is the board loaded with BGA or CSP packages ? Are all the passives are 0402 and smaller ? Do let us know.
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Nothing judging by the pictures...

Hurtig and KvK did the exact same thing on a Danish audio forum... I think it's just their way to spend time, don't let the troll catch you 😉

I'll unsubscribe this lousy thread from now.
 
#176
Havoc08 said:



Nothing judging by the pictures...

Hurtig and KvK did the exact same thing on a Danish audio forum... I think it's just their way to spend time, don't let the troll catch you 😉

I'll unsubscribe this lousy thread from now.
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Well it seems as if we have to spell it out for you!
You can have the PCB - just say so!
You cannot have any schematics as they do not exist.
You cannot have any support
you can have a type and make list of components.
You can have close up photos of both sides of the PCB.

If you cannot do a perfectly working DAC with this information, you should not go for it at all.

Get on with it or please look elsewhere.
 
#177
ikoflexer said:






1) do you have a product I can buy? If you do, please point to how it can be bought

The answer is partly no!
I think you might be able to opbtain a single PCB, and that is all

2) do you have a design that you would like to exchange ideas about with other diy people, on this forum? If yes, it is impossible without schematics.

The answer is: NO!

You made me curious with your shunt regulator claims. It turns out you are unwilling to show it. It's fine with me. But man, have the guts to just say "I do not want to show it," please don't waste people's time with beating around the bush.

It is already shown

If you want to sell anything, I have no problem with that. If you don't want to share your ideas, I also don't have a problem with that. IMHO people should do what they want with the fruit of their labour. But can you be straight about it? Say yes when you mean yes, no when you mean no.

We mean NO!



The only thing I don't understand is why you decide who can and who cannot implement something. You do not give the impression that you actually care about diy beginners. Instead, the impression you give is one of hiding something. And that's fine with me too. But you're hurting your own credibility in a major way. We're not five year olds.

Regardles of your age, this design calls for both soldering skills and sight above average. This is just one of the reasons why we do not want to publish it anyway.
Still the most important issue is the schematics, which we do not want to spend time on doing, as the project is stalled.

WE WILL START ALL OVER AGAIN, AND DO A PROJECT THAT CAN BE BUILD BY HAND.

SORRY WE FAILED THE FIRST GO.

Time also seems to be a matter that turns you of, but we have to get things right. Some times it will take weeks to decide if a capacitor has to leave the project or not. There is no other way of beating everyone else


Regards.
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