DAC blind test: NO audible difference whatsoever

[Indigent Audio]

Lol DAC drama is so delicious, someday we will have a similar discussion about how audiophile air fresheners effect your coconut husk room treatments

 

[rfbrw]

What they don't have is the supporting evidence. Arguments would end quickly only if they have such thing.

In order to produce refuting or supporting evidence one would have to care about the accusation.

 

[Evenharmonics]

one would have to care about the accusation.

Do you mean care about the claim? The onus would be on the one who makes the claim.

 

[rfbrw]

Do you mean care about the claim? The onus would be on the one who makes the claim.

OK, claim it is but the underlying still holds. You claimed there is no audible difference. Seeking to refute said claim is utterly pointless. What's in it for me ?

 

[scott wurcer]

I'm more interested in listening to music than audience clapping, does that make me a "casual listener"?

You should give up and find a new hobby comes next.

 

[Evenharmonics]

You claimed there is no audible difference.

Please quote that post. Thank you.

Seeking to refute said claim is utterly pointless. What's in it for me ?

Perhaps that is your opinion, which you are entitled to.

 

[youknowyou]

still surprise me to see people trying to defend and convince others of their belief system. you think dac dont make a difference? who cares

 

[Evenharmonics]

who cares

DAC shills do.

 

[audiostar]

JonBocani,

How about a blind test on speakers? What would the results be?

 

[BigE]

195 pages.... has anyone quoted Dunning Kruger yet?

Of all the hobbies, audiophilia must have the highest concentration of people under the influence of the Dunning Kruger effect...

 

[JonBocani]

JonBocani,

How about a blind test on speakers? What would the results be?

Already did it (drivers, transducers, midrange 400-6300hz). Last blindtest I did in my former audiolab, just before my inner-audiophile-self committed suicide.

Yup, did it. also no good news from speaker's side...

 

[JonBocani]

195 pages.... has anyone quoted Dunning Kruger yet?

Of all the hobbies, audiophilia must have the highest concentration of people under the influence of the Dunning Kruger effect...

Haha! Thanks BigE that's excellent!

didnt know about that effect:

Dunning–Kruger effect - Wikipedia

 

[JonBocani]

JonBocani,

How about a blind test on speakers? What would the results be?

That was the driver's blindtest:


World' Best Midranges - SHOCKING Results & Conclusions.

 

[dddac]

Some of the guys who are very anti-good dac are that way for an interesting reason: its because they are 'reformed' audiophiles. Given how adamant they are that they are right this time and that anyone who disagrees with them is wrong, an idiot, and or a crook, just imagine the kinds of things they must have been saying and believing back before they became 'reformed'

Nice line of thought... like ex smokers, they are the worst. I know because I am on of them but definitely not a reformed audiophile Still, I do not like the blown away and day and night remarks. I try to be more moderate in my wording. I do know the differences are there, also blind. But I also know it is normally relative and small, but if I like it better, it was worth it

 

[BigE]

Plenty of reformed audiophiles. But not all bang on the "I am right" drum.

 

[U101222]

195 pages.... has anyone quoted Dunning Kruger yet?

Of all the hobbies, audiophilia must have the highest concentration of people under the influence of the Dunning Kruger effect...

LIKE! THUMBS UP!

 

[nhatlam96]

Hey guys Quick question, I cant read 195 pages �� Is the conclusion of this experiment still relevant today with newer dac technologies? Is there still not an audible difference between dacs till this day? For example Fiio E10k DAC vs Topping D50s DAC

 

[Evenharmonics]

You can compare the measurements. It was below audible threshold then, why would it be audible to be even further below the audible threshold now?

 

[nhatlam96]

You can compare the measurements. It was below audible threshold then, why would it be audible to be even further below the audible threshold now?

I just thought that modern DACs would sound a lot cleaner than old dacs to a point, that it would be humanly audible.

 

[Markw4]

I just thought that modern DACs would sound a lot cleaner than old dacs to a point, that it would be humanly audible.

Its audible to some people. Apparently not to others. Hence, never ending arguments, claims and counterclaims. You will have to listen to some and decide for yourself.

Also, don't worry too much about all the blind test claims. Blind is harder than sighted, but with practice its doable and demonstrates there are audible differences for some people.