This thread is what you would call "Faith Healing" for audio electronics.
Mostly opinion based, there are some theorys floating around "why" the caps work, but for many people its clear that the turmalin chinch caps do something, either you test it or let it be...Did they measure anything or it was just opinion based?
well it sounds better with than withoutDefine "change positively"
1 (listening expression) + 1 (theory about why tourmaline caps work) = 2 😉Agree on that: mathematically 0=0
You are free to believe thatQuoting 6 moons with no further proof almost guaranteed snake oil content.
They post nothing but.
Or maybe Faith in Science? 😳 You just want to be on the side that’s winning. 😛This thread is what you would call "Faith Healing" for audio electronics.
the funny thing about all this "esoteric stuff"
1. tourmaline (and all other piezoelectric crystals) producing negative ions
2. tourmaline (and all other piezoelectric crystals) producing vibrations (from absorbing electricity)
2. tourmaline (and all the other pyroelectric crystals) producing heat (from absorbing electricity)
are scientific facts, so calling this out complete BS is BS on another level, you guys just dont know either 1. the actual facts 2. or simply wont wanna accept that "stones" can have anything todo with a perceived audible change
1. tourmaline (and all other piezoelectric crystals) producing negative ions
2. tourmaline (and all other piezoelectric crystals) producing vibrations (from absorbing electricity)
2. tourmaline (and all the other pyroelectric crystals) producing heat (from absorbing electricity)
are scientific facts, so calling this out complete BS is BS on another level, you guys just dont know either 1. the actual facts 2. or simply wont wanna accept that "stones" can have anything todo with a perceived audible change
Some more background info, how much of a thing this is... take a look at the marketing material from furutech
https://www.furutech.com/technology/
"NCF features a special crystalline material that has two ‘active’ properties. First, it generates negative ions that eliminate static. Second, it converts thermal energy into far infrared (HEAT)."
"Furutech achieved this by combining these crystals with nano-sized ceramic particles and carbon powder to create a piezoelectric effect, which results in even better damping properties."
They also use piezoelectric ceramics, not just crystals, which are widely used in the industry.... solar panels and other stuff
https://www.furutech.com/technology/
"NCF features a special crystalline material that has two ‘active’ properties. First, it generates negative ions that eliminate static. Second, it converts thermal energy into far infrared (HEAT)."
"Furutech achieved this by combining these crystals with nano-sized ceramic particles and carbon powder to create a piezoelectric effect, which results in even better damping properties."
They also use piezoelectric ceramics, not just crystals, which are widely used in the industry.... solar panels and other stuff
Some people throw their opinion around as actual facts.... please let other have another opinion...
once im done with my mix im even eager to give a 14 day money back gurantee when you send the caps back (at your own cost tho..)
i dont try to just sell something... i wanna find something that works for me and might work for others too 🙂 when you are open minded i can just advice to give it a shot... thats why i wanna share this, its a nice audio tweak (relatively cheap tbh, unless you look at some "snake oil offerings") that many are not aware off, and some sell this "technology" for a huge upmarket...
once im done with my mix im even eager to give a 14 day money back gurantee when you send the caps back (at your own cost tho..)
i dont try to just sell something... i wanna find something that works for me and might work for others too 🙂 when you are open minded i can just advice to give it a shot... thats why i wanna share this, its a nice audio tweak (relatively cheap tbh, unless you look at some "snake oil offerings") that many are not aware off, and some sell this "technology" for a huge upmarket...
not sure what you mean, it works fine 🙂I can see why that usb filter didn't work now
i would say the usb filter did more than the chinch caps... but both are nice tweaks, soo...
each free rca port should work to varying degree, you can also use something like a bnc to rca adapterWhere would I connect your plugs to my stereo and what's the idea behind?.
personally i noticed that the effect is much stronger on my active speakers, maybe because of additionally vibrations is my guess but its worth it to test them on some locations, there are no possible negatives with the "only ground used" design imo, either you hear the crystal effect or it does nothing
Pure altruism....what's the idea behind?.
.... i think once i settled on a design price will be around 20-50 Euro per pair
You are posting just "opinion" since you offer no proof whatsoever, only your own word.Some people throw their opinion around as actual facts.... please let other have another opinion...
We are asking for measurements which is the state of the art definition of fact.
You claim you noticed something.Personally i noticed that the effect is much stronger on my active speakers,
Your word/imagination only.
Anything which causes an audible change will also cause a measurable change in Audio signal.
For the simple reason that modern Lab instruments are way more sensitive than any Human sense.
In the old days Hippocrates detected diabetes by tasting patient's urine, go figure.
Today I prick my finger and use a glucometer, which gives me a 1% precision result.
Not even comparable.
"It sounds better" without any proof counts, at best, to Hippocrates test.
As in it's very hard to detect difference between 0.1% and 0.2% distortion (if at all possible) while it's easy to measure that.
Same way as it's very difficult to detect 1 dB loss st 20kHz while it's easy to measure it.
1000 other examples like that.
So IF your wonder rocks do anything, simply connect a generator to a load using them, sweep 20Hz to 20kHz and show us the curves.
Much better than preaching standing on a soapbox at Hyde Park corner
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soapbox
You have no clue and are throwing random "explanations" pulled out of the blue.maybe because of additionally vibrations is my guess
Testing as in measuring?but its worth it to test them on some locations,
Please do it.
Even better, measure and post results.either you hear the crystal effect or it does nothing
My guess? No "crystal effect" whatsoever, beyond suggestion and illusion that is, but let measurements do the talking.
Your endless preaching offers nothing solid and entertainment value has worn thin by now.
are scientific facts, so calling this out complete BS is BS on another level, you guys just dont know either 1. the actual facts 2. or simply wont wanna accept that "stones" can have anything todo with a perceived audible change
Nobody is disputing the scientific fact that certain minerals, crystals and gemstones have piezoelectric and pyroelectric properties.
What we are disputing is surrounding or connecting in some way an audio device with rocks, stones, pebbles, powders, crystals, gemstones and variations of other "Earthly" materials and believe this will have any effect on the electronics.
It is complete nonsense, backed by zero evidence. To include marketing material from snake oil merchants as an authoritative scientific reference and presenting this as fact is laughable.
You can get the same euphoric effects listening to music whilst having a bubble bath.
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sez who?We are asking for measurements which is the state of the art definition of fact
No, just a few folks that are very knowledgeable about electronics, especially as it relates to audio, and that have much more than a tenuous grip on how this thing called "physics" actually works.I detect a boatload of pseudo skeptics have infiltrated.
each free rca port should work to varying degree,
A lot of well designed equipment cuts off gnd connection to unused inputs. A compulsory feature imho.
Just to say the fact out loud... if someone hasnt tried this and just goes by the opinion of "oh just a bunch of rocks", his opinion is pretty much worthless here 🙂
oh i havent come across such devices yet, most devices leave ground connected tho, on my active speaker i measure 0 ohm between rca ground and earth groundA lot of well designed equipment cuts off gnd connection to unused inputs. A compulsory feature imho.
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