Counterfeit IC die revealed!

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Interestingly Unisonic in Taiwan carry a datasheet (Looking suspiciously TI/NS - esque) for their version of TDA2050....

http://www.unisonic.com.tw/product2.asp?BClass=114

I see no indication of them discontinuing it....
Also if there is different silicon fabrication going on maybe this accounts for parts with differing dies.
However I doubt very much they are the ones trying to pass their parts off as genuine ST ones.
 
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Not these particular chips, but others, along with a host of other bits and pieces. I have used the seller for decades. He is the last independant electronic components specialist standing in London! ("Craplin" hardly counts....)
 
lm338k

I just got a pair of the lm388k for 18$ +4$ shipping. The price is kind of low for an lm338k steel, so can u guys take a look at these?
What do you think, are these real or not?
 

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lm338k steel for 8.95$ is a good deal.
Yes, that is a VERY good price. But I'm wondering WHAT do you expect in return for the 5 x price for the TO-3 steel version as opposed to the TO-220 encasing. Both are rated on the data sheet the same--5 amps continuous (8 amps if Vin-Vout is <10 volts), and 7 amps peak. Perhaps the steel version would require less heat sinking? Both should have a heat sink, anyway.
 
U are right , but the k version gives u more flexibility , it has 50w max power dissipation , that's 5amps x 10volts drop. The regular version gives u 25w max power dissipation , and I know (because I used it) gets very hot, even with a very large heatsink. But for sure the k version is a better product , why do you think that retails for more than 30$?
 
Yes, that is a VERY good price. But I'm wondering WHAT do you expect in return for the 5 x price for the TO-3 steel version as opposed to the TO-220 encasing. Both are rated on the data sheet the same--5 amps continuous (8 amps if Vin-Vout is <10 volts), and 7 amps peak. Perhaps the steel version would require less heat sinking? Both should have a heat sink, anyway.

According to the TI datasheet, the TO-3 version has 1 C/W vs. the TO-220 4 C/W thermal resistance. Given good heat sinking in either case, the die in the TO-3 will run cooler and the part would have better long term reliability.
 
the k version gives u more flexibility , it has 50w max power dissipation , that's 5amps x 10volts drop. The regular version gives u 25w max power dissipation
I do NOT see that specification in the data sheet; I DO see that given a Vin-Vout of <10 volts, it is rated at 8 amps. That's 80 watts.
I DO also see that the thermal resistance, junction-to-case is MUCH better (1 degree/watt versus 4) with the K package---that makes sense. It would therefore appear to indeed be more reliable in the long run. Just wish they weren't so D**n expensive!!
 
I do NOT see that specification in the data sheet; I DO see that given a Vin-Vout of <10 volts, it is rated at 8 amps. That's 80 watts.

True , hard to find that in the texas instruments data sheet , but i found it in the National semiconductor lm338 datasheet, page 3, somewhere in the middle :
"Note 2: These specifications are applicable for power dissipations up to 50W for the TO-3 (K) package and 25W for the TO-220 (T) package. "

http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdDS/838621.pdf


one of the lm338k replacements is NTE935, google for info.
TO-3 package , 50watts power dissipation.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Gabe
 
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