Chilli Chang review/mod

[myster_maze]

Jeroen, it looks great! Is it burgundy?

I saw a pic of a wooden floor before. Is it at your listening room?
Do the spikes work on that? Have you tried with and without spikes?
I'm asking because I have moved to another house and it has a wooden floor. All of my previous houses were not and I don't have any experience with that. I don't have to pay rent, though! But I have more troubles now....

 

[greenie512]

Jeroen - love the paint job - speaker looks great. Is that a rubber pad on the feet? I found my pair a bit uninteresting (on carpet) until I put outriggers and spikes on, perhaps you might have to direct couple the speaker to the floor! (spikes on metal plates if exposed timber)

Alternatively, try removing some/all acoustic fill behind the driver and see what that does?

 

[JeroenR]

Nice

Yes, using preview breaks attachments.

dave

Thanks

Jeroen, it looks great! Is it burgundy?

I saw a pic of a wooden floor before. Is it at your listening room?
Do the spikes work on that? Have you tried with and without spikes?
I'm asking because I have moved to another house and it has a wooden floor. All of my previous houses were not and I don't have any experience with that. I don't have to pay rent, though! But I have more troubles now....

The red is called ox-blood, it is close to burgundy though.

My livingroom has a (thin fake) wooden floor indeed. I did not try without spikes on it so can not compare. I'm also no expert on usage of spikes. As far as I understood it is always wise to lift the speakers from the floor.

Jeroen - love the paint job - speaker looks great. Is that a rubber pad on the feet? I found my pair a bit uninteresting (on carpet) until I put outriggers and spikes on, perhaps you might have to direct couple the speaker to the floor! (spikes on metal plates if exposed timber)

Alternatively, try removing some/all acoustic fill behind the driver and see what that does?

The feet are spikes from soundcare. There is no rubber pad, the black is plastic to keep the metal base attached to the feet when you lift the speaker, very handy when moving the speakers.

I will play with the acoustic fill as soon as I'm confident that the speakers had theirr brake-in period.

Thanks,

Jeroen

 

[imagios]

Hello Jeroen,
as I as well think to build me a pair of these boxes, can you please reffer how do they play now few months after you made them? (did you let only the carpet as damping inside?)

 

[JeroenR]

Hi Imagios,

After a few months of (too little) listening I am starting to like them more and more. The best I can say about them is that they seem to be less "present" in the room and that with the FE167 they sound very "relaxed".

I can only compare with my previous speakers, a set of BD pipes with Fostex FE103S. This is a very good sounding speaker, very precise. Downside was perhaps a bit less low and sometimes too direct.

The Chili's are more in balance and have lots more low. It might be due to the big vents but the sound seems more wide or full. I am driving them now with a 2W SET amp but I think they need a bit more power to realy bloom.

And yes, only the carpet.

Jeroen

 

[imagios]

thanks for the info,
how did you designed the bracing, found it somewhere or just by assumption?
Is there anything you would made different if you would build a new one?

btw. do you drive them realy only with 2w power? (im thinking to build a apm as well for thouse speakers and I thouhgt to build a 2x25w amp; But if there is no need for so much power I may be build something like 2x10)

 

[JeroenR]

For the brace I just looked at what others did and used my imagination. I do not think it is all that critical,

If there is one thing I could change than I would perhaps go for a better driver, one that can deliver a bit more detail. The FE167 are nice but the FE103S gave something extra's in the highs.

The amp is a 6V6SET and that is 2 to 2.5 Watts.

 

[imagios]

This one catched my eye as well HEMP Acoustics FR8C, but it would be too big for my room

 

[planet10]

This one catched my eye as well HEMP Acoustics FR8C, but it would be too big for my room

And perhaps hard to find. Hemp Acoustics is no more.

dave

 

[imagios]

For the brace I just looked at what others did and used my imagination. I do not think it is all that critical,

If there is one thing I could change than I would perhaps go for a better driver, one that can deliver a bit more detail. The FE167 are nice but the FE103S gave something extra's in the highs.

The amp is a 6V6SET and that is 2 to 2.5 Watts.

Back to the brace, I think I will use the same as you did,... since this will be my first project and I have no idea how to design it, and this seems to be one of the easyest.... but still Im very currious how would sound diferent bracings in this speakers.

 

[JeroenR]

I think (hope) it does not make a big diff, just make sure you place it off-centre.

 

[imagios]

OK shloud it be off centre verticaly or Horizontaly?

 

[planet10]

If we go back to the basics...

0/ a brace should be oriented such that the resulting subpanels have a higher aspect ratio than the original & the ratios of the 2 subpanels should not be equal.

dave

 

[imagios]

OK I have made my order of the 167e´s and expecting them every day )
for now, does any one has a list od dimentions of the MFD tables I will need, or do I have to read them out from the only drawing that I saw is here: http://homepage.mac.com/tlinespeakers/FH/download/ChiliChang-map-311007.pdf
Does anyone of you has something more detailed?

 

[planet10]

At this point there is no cut-list/plan. If you can use good plywood instead of MDF you'll end up with a better box. If you use MDF you will likely need to at least double up the side panels.

dave

 

[greenie512]

OK I have made my order of the 167e´s and expecting them every day )
for now, does any one has a list od dimentions of the MFD tables I will need, or do I have to read them out from the only drawing that I saw is here: http://homepage.mac.com/tlinespeakers/FH/download/ChiliChang-map-311007.pdf
Does anyone of you has something more detailed?

Hi Imagios, I usually do a cutting schedule for all my projects, I'm out bush this week so can not check on my own PC. Will have a look Friday night and if I did one will PM you.

 

[imagios]

OK thanks a lot ) As I have to order the boards, since in my two room apartment its not a great idea to cut wood ) So I will get them cutt and just glue toggether ))

 

[imagios]

Hello,
so finaly the fostexs have arrived

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I hope to start the work at end december, still Im not sure about the bracing....
I will write down the dimension of the boards to discuss with you befor I order them
to get sure.

 

[imagios]

Hello Everybody,
so I have put so far a cutting schedule and have calculated following dimension:
(in mm)

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Please take a look and give me some feedback on the dimentios, are they right?

Im missing the dimentions of the pyramidal part, and the bracing - as a total newbie I dont have the skill to form the bracings...Im open to any suggestion idealy a draving.

 

[imagios]

Well as I still dont have the cutting schedule,... and the drivers are laying around already
the third month I may build the basic enclosure fostex recommends
http://www.fostexinternational.com/docs/speaker_comp/pdf/recom_enclose/167e_enclrev.pdf
atleast I would be finished within a week...
and make the chillis later.
Has any one experience with them? How much is there on the difference between thouse two?