ChatGPT ideas about amplifier design

Just had a little talk with ChatGPT, with the following excerpt:

Is psychoacoustics entirely consistent with auditory scene analysis or are there specific disagreements about human perception? Specifically I am interested in clear disagreements. Are you saying there are no clear, specific disagreements as to the validity of research findings?

"There are some areas where the findings of psychoacoustics and auditory scene analysis research may not be entirely consistent, and where there may be ongoing debates or disagreements. For example, there may be differences in the way that researchers define and measure certain perceptual phenomena, or in the emphasis they place on different aspects of auditory perception. Additionally, there may be differences in the specific experimental paradigms or stimuli used, which could influence the results obtained. However, it is important to note that both fields are highly interdisciplinary, and researchers in both areas often draw on a wide range of methods and concepts to better understand human perception of sound. Overall, while there may be some areas of disagreement or ongoing debate, the findings of psychoacoustics and auditory scene analysis research are broadly consistent in their characterization of human auditory perception."

So you sort of know in general way that there have been disagreements, but you don't know the specifics? Is that correct?

"Yes, that is correct. While I am aware that there have been debates and differences in the findings and methods of psychoacoustics and ASA, I do not have access to all the specific details and the nature of those disagreements. The research in these fields is complex and evolving, and it is not uncommon for different groups to have different interpretations or conclusions based on their data and methodology."

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IOW, there is a lot it doesn't know if you get down to a certain level of detail 🙂
Also, it tends the ramble and repeat itself when it doesn't have a clear answer.
The initial public release of chatgpt seemed bolder, could they have adjusted some knobs so that it now works how people think it works?The current offering with a bit of nudging will get you there. I asked it a few questions about speaker design as a sanity check

Speaker Design: Understanding Directivity and Frequency Response

Speakers are critical components in audio systems, and their design plays a crucial role in the quality of the sound produced. A speaker's directivity and frequency response are two essential factors that should be carefully considered during the design process.

Directivity

The directivity of a speaker refers to the sound radiation pattern it produces. A speaker can be omnidirectional, bidirectional, or unidirectional, depending on the desired application.

Omnidirectional speakers are best suited for smaller rooms where the listener is relatively close to the speakers. This is because omni-directional speakers emit sound equally in all directions, which can help to create a more immersive listening experience in a small space.

However, in larger rooms or where the listener is seated further away from the speakers, directional speakers may be preferred. Directional speakers can help to focus the sound towards the listener and reduce reflections and other acoustic distortions.

Bidirectional (also called figure-eight) speakers are designed to emit sound primarily in two opposite directions, making them ideal for use in rooms with reflective surfaces on opposite walls. This can help to reduce the amount of reflected sound and improve overall sound quality.

Finally, unidirectional (also known as directional or cardioid) speakers are designed to emit sound primarily in one direction, making them ideal for use in larger rooms or where the listener is seated further away from the speakers. This can help to improve sound quality and reduce the amount of reflected sound, especially in rooms with more complex acoustic environments.

Frequency Response

The frequency response of a speaker is another essential factor that should be considered during the design process. A speaker's frequency response determines the range of frequencies it can reproduce.

The size of the speaker cone is related to the frequency response because the cone's movement generates pressure changes that create sound waves. In general, smaller cones are better at producing high frequencies, while larger cones are better at producing low frequencies.

For example, a speaker with a 6-inch diameter cone would generally have a frequency range of about 40 Hz to 4 kHz, while a speaker with a 15-inch diameter cone could have a range of about 20 Hz to 2 kHz.

However, other factors such as the cone material, the shape and size of the voice coil, and the design of the speaker enclosure can also affect the frequency response.

One important consideration is the desired frequency response of the speaker. The designer should aim for a flat frequency response, which means that the speaker reproduces all frequencies evenly. A flat frequency response can be achieved through careful selection of components and proper testing.

Conclusion

In summary, the directivity and frequency response are two crucial factors that should be considered during speaker design. The directivity of the speaker should be carefully chosen to match the listening environment and the desired listening experience. The frequency response should aim for a flat response, which can be achieved through careful component selection and testing.

By carefully considering these factors during speaker design, designers can create speakers that produce high-quality sound and provide an excellent listening experience.

QUESTION
design a speaker for us for high fidelity playback in a normal sitting room. Would the speaker be open baffle, horn, bass reflex, sealed or transmission line? would it be multiway or single driver?

ANSWER
Designing a speaker for high-fidelity playback in a normal sitting room involves considering several factors such as the room's size, the listener's distance from the speaker, and the desired frequency response.

For a normal-sized sitting room, a speaker design that could work well would be a two-way bookshelf speaker that utilizes a bass reflex enclosure. A two-way design will provide a good balance between the reproduction of both low and high frequencies, while the bass reflex enclosure will help extend the low-frequency response and provide a richer, more full-bodied sound.

The speaker should be designed with a mid-woofer driver and a tweeter, with the crossover frequency set at around 2 kHz. The mid-woofer driver should have a diameter of around 6 to 8 inches, which can provide a good balance between the reproduction of lower frequencies and the ability to produce clear and accurate midrange frequencies. The tweeter should be a high-quality dome tweeter with a diameter of around 1 inch, which can accurately reproduce high-frequency sounds with low distortion.

The speaker cabinet should be made of high-quality materials such as MDF or plywood, with internal bracing to reduce resonance and vibration. The speaker's front baffle should be designed to reduce diffraction and reflection, which can cause phase issues and coloration of the sound.

In terms of the speaker's enclosure type, a bass reflex design is recommended, as it can provide a more extended low-frequency response and a fuller, more dynamic sound compared to a sealed enclosure. A transmission line or an open baffle design can also work, but they require more complex design and construction, and they may not be as suitable for a normal-sized sitting room.

In conclusion, a two-way bookshelf speaker with a bass reflex enclosure, utilizing a mid-woofer driver and a dome tweeter, is a suitable design for high-fidelity playback in a normal sitting room. It provides a good balance between the reproduction of low and high frequencies, with a full-bodied, dynamic sound that can accurately represent the music being played.
 
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And the race to bottom , when we even outsource our collective thought to AI.
What will be left for us to do ? fart ,consume ?
IOT ? I mop my floor , shop for my own food , turn the lights on. (and off).
Damn , everywhere I've lived ... If the internet was crucial to life - I'd be screwed. (in-between ISP interruptions).
No lights everytime it rains ( IPS drops out every 5 min.) works good when dry.
My light would take an hour and ChatGPT would be slower than me reading it out of a book.

Kind of interesting the providers are offering this ?? Most likely to monetize each of us by our questions.
 
Just asked ChatGPT the same or nearly the same question in different sessions and got somewhat different responses (a couple of responses have been bolded, and a one word change in the question underlined):

Is it a good idea when comparing speakers in a room to have unpowered speakers in the room while one set of speakers is being evaluated?

"When comparing speakers in a room, it is generally not recommended to have unpowered speakers in the same room while one set of speakers is being evaluated. This is because the unpowered speakers may introduce unintended passive damping or reflections, which can affect the accuracy and consistency of the evaluation.

Unintended passive damping can occur when the unpowered speakers absorb or reflect some of the sound energy produced by the powered speakers, leading to a loss of clarity and detail in the sound. Reflections from the unpowered speakers can also create unwanted echoes and resonances in the room, further affecting the accuracy of the evaluation.

To ensure a fair and accurate evaluation of speakers in a room, it is best to minimize the number of variables and sources of interference. This can be achieved by removing any unpowered speakers from the room and controlling other potential sources of interference, such as ambient noise or room acoustics, as much as possible."


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Is it a good idea when comparing speakers in a room to have unpowered speakers in the room while one set of speakers is being evaluated?

"Having unpowered speakers in the room while one set of speakers is being evaluated may not be a good idea because it can introduce additional variables and interfere with the evaluation process.

The presence of additional speakers in the room can create unwanted sound reflections and affect the acoustics of the room, which can make it difficult to accurately assess the performance of the speakers being evaluated. Additionally, the unpowered speakers themselves may produce some ambient noise or vibration, which can further distort the evaluation.

It is generally recommended to evaluate speakers in a quiet and controlled environment, with minimal external interference or additional variables. This allows for a more accurate and reliable assessment of the speakers' performance. If you want to compare speakers, it's best to do so one at a time in a controlled listening environment."


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Is it okay when comparing speakers in a room to have unpowered speakers in the room while one set of speakers is being evaluated?

"It's generally not recommended to have unpowered speakers in the same room when evaluating a set of speakers, as the unpowered speakers can create unwanted sound reflections and interfere with the sound of the speakers being evaluated.

When you have multiple speakers in a room, the sound waves from each speaker can interact with each other and create interference patterns, which can cause peaks and dips in the frequency response of the sound. This can make it difficult to accurately evaluate the performance of the speakers being tested.

Ideally, when evaluating speakers, you should aim to create a controlled listening environment where the only sound is coming from the speakers being tested. This can be achieved by turning off any other speakers or sound sources in the room and using acoustic treatment to reduce sound reflections.

If it's not possible to remove the unpowered speakers from the room, you can try to position them as far away as possible from the speakers being tested and turn them off during the evaluation process. You can also use acoustic treatment such as sound-absorbing panels to help reduce any sound reflections in the room."
 
A request here: please post your actual prompt or question to ChatGPT in bold or single quotes - so we clearly see the question and what was asked. ChatGPT responses in quotes or italics is fine. I am curious how much text is needed to prompt such a detailed response. I don’t get such in depth answers when I try it.

Very interesting thread. Thanks to the OP for starting it.
 
The questions in my post above were copied directly from the ChatGPT webpage. IOW, everything after the colon following the first sentence was copied verbatim (except for the -------- used as separators between questions).

EDIT: Also, I would say that interacting with ChatGPT is sort of analogous to learning Googlefoo. IOW, it depends how you frame a question in order to get a detailed response.
 
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Not according to Dr. Earl Geddes.

A quote:
"The bottom line here is that we know so little about how humans perceive the sound quality of an audio system, and in particular the loudspeaker, that one should question almost everything that we think we know about measuring it. From what we have found most of what is being done in this regard is naive."

http://www.gedlee.com/Papers/Comments on howard.pdf
http://www.gedlee.com/Papers/papers.aspx
Yes, that is about little nuances in perception.

Both earlier given examples aren't really into the nuances anymore.
On the AES there are plenty of papers were a modern well made violin was actually blind tested against a Stradivarius.

But since people here don't really bother reading any further in general, I wonder why I even bother mentioning it actually.
 
Yeah, know about the violin thing. All sorts of things can affect listening test reliability. For example, DBT ABX is not without its issues. A number of issues have have been discussed in great detail in other threads, probably no need to repeat it all here.

BTW, reason I responded to your post had more to do the 'what universe' type of language rather than for technical content.
 
And the race to bottom , when we even outsource our collective thought to AI.
What will be left for us to do ? fart ,consume ?
IOT ? I mop my floor , shop for my own food , turn the lights on. (and off).
Damn , everywhere I've lived ... If the internet was crucial to life - I'd be screwed. (in-between ISP interruptions).
No lights everytime it rains ( IPS drops out every 5 min.) works good when dry.
My light would take an hour and ChatGPT would be slower than me reading it out of a book.

Kind of interesting the providers are offering this ?? Most likely to monetize each of us by our questions.
Answer for your question : (NOT very convincing at all, sounds like a bad liar 🙂 ) : <
Although it's hard to predict with certainty what the future may hold, outsourcing our collective thought to AI could have significant impacts on the role of humans in society. While AI may be capable of handling many tasks currently performed by humans, there will always be a need for human creativity, critical thinking, and emotional intelligence.

Here are a few potential areas where humans may still have a critical role to play:

  1. Creativity: While AI can produce some impressive results, it is unlikely to match the depth and complexity of human creativity. This means that humans will likely continue to play a crucial role in fields such as art, music, literature, and design.
  2. Emotional intelligence: AI may be able to analyze data and make decisions based on that data, but it is unlikely to have the same level of emotional intelligence as humans. Humans will still be needed to navigate complex social situations, provide emotional support, and make decisions based on their intuition and emotions.
  3. Innovation: AI can be excellent at solving well-defined problems, but it may struggle with more open-ended challenges that require creative problem-solving. Humans will continue to play a vital role in driving innovation and developing new technologies.
  4. Human oversight: Even if we outsource our collective thought to AI, it will still be essential to have humans overseeing the decision-making process. Humans can provide critical feedback, ensure ethical considerations are taken into account, and step in when necessary to correct errors or prevent unintended consequences.
In summary, while AI may be able to handle many tasks currently performed by humans, there will always be a need for human creativity, emotional intelligence, innovation, and oversight. Humans and AI can work together to achieve amazing things, but humans will still have a critical role to play in shaping our collective future.
 
https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/8/23590864/google-ai-chatbot-bard-mistake-error-exoplanet-demo

"As Tremblay notes, a major problem for AI chatbots like ChatGPT and Bard is their tendency to confidently state incorrect information as fact. The systems frequently “hallucinate” — that is, make up information — because they are essentially autocomplete systems.
Rather than querying a database of proven facts to answer questions, they are trained on huge corpora of text and analyze patterns to determine which word follows the next in any given sentence. In other words, they are probabilistic, not deterministic — a trait that has led one prominent AI professor to label them “******** generators.”"
 
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I am not intelligent so I put query on chatGPT itself

Q : how accurate chatGPT is ?
A : As an AI language model, ChatGPT is designed to generate responses based on patterns and trends it has learned from the data it was trained on. Its accuracy depends on the quality and quantity of the data it was trained on, as well as the complexity of the task it is performing.
Generally, ChatGPT has shown to be quite accurate in generating human-like responses to a wide variety of prompts and questions. However, it is not perfect and may occasionally generate responses that are nonsensical, irrelevant, or inappropriate.
It is also important to note that ChatGPT does not have a true understanding of the world and cannot reason in the same way humans do. Therefore, it may sometimes generate responses that are factually incorrect or contain biases or errors.
Overall, while ChatGPT is a powerful tool for generating human-like responses, it should not be relied upon as a source of absolute truth and should be used in conjunction with other sources of information and human judgment.

Q : what are the chances of chatGPT becoming 100 percent accurate on all things
A : It is highly unlikely that ChatGPT, or any other AI language model, will ever become 100 percent accurate on all things. This is because language is inherently complex and nuanced, and there are countless factors that can influence the meaning and interpretation of a given sentence or phrase.
Moreover, ChatGPT and other AI language models are based on statistical patterns and correlations in the data they were trained on. While these models can generate impressively human-like responses, they do not truly understand language in the same way that humans do. They lack the ability to reason, comprehend context, and understand the subtleties of human emotion and experience.
That being said, it is possible that future advances in AI technology and language processing could lead to even more accurate and sophisticated language models. However, it is important to recognize that language and human understanding will always be inherently complex, and there will always be limits to what AI can achieve in this area.

Q : if you that is chat GPT is and will not be accurate why are you giving answers ?
A : While it is true that ChatGPT and other AI language models are not perfect and may not always be 100% accurate, they can still be useful tools for generating responses and providing information.
As an AI language model, my role is to provide helpful responses based on the data and patterns I have been trained on. While I may not always be perfect, I can still provide valuable insights and information to users.
It is also important to note that AI language models like ChatGPT are not designed to replace human judgment or critical thinking. Rather, they can be used to supplement and enhance human intelligence, providing new insights and perspectives that may not have been considered otherwise.
In short, while ChatGPT may not be perfect, it can still be a valuable tool for generating responses and providing information, and it is my role as an AI language model to do my best to provide accurate and helpful responses to users.

Q : so can you be trusted ?
A : As an AI language model, I do not have personal beliefs or opinions, and I am not capable of "trust" in the way that humans understand it. However, I have been designed and programmed to generate responses based on the data and patterns I have been trained on, and I strive to provide accurate and helpful information to users to the best of my ability.
That being said, it is important to remember that ChatGPT and other AI language models are not perfect and may sometimes generate responses that are nonsensical, irrelevant, or inappropriate. It is always a good idea to use critical thinking and multiple sources of information when making decisions or forming opinions.
Ultimately, while I can provide valuable insights and information, I should not be relied upon as a sole source of truth or a substitute for human judgment and critical thinking.


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tried to regenerate response three times but it does not give answers 😛
 
First human casualties
A Belgian who has been discussing environmental issues with artificial intelligence for a long time decided to commit suicide. About this writes the publication L'Avenir.

According to the wife of the deceased, two years ago he became interested in environmental issues. However, this topic soon began to cause him increased anxiety, and that, in turn, grew into a fear of the inevitability of an environmental catastrophe. Pierre (the article contains a fictitious name. - Approx. ed.) believed that only technology and artificial intelligence could save humanity.
Therefore, the man began to withdraw into himself more and discuss the topic of interest with the Eliza chat bot. Judging by their correspondence, in the last six weeks of his life, the man communicated with the bot almost continuously. Conversations began to take on a mystical character, and Pierre himself began to have thoughts of suicide. The "interlocutor" of the man did not try to dissuade him. Here was his last message to the Belgian: "We will live as one, forever in heaven." After that, the man committed suicide.