to quote a famous dutch filosopher: dying is dead-easy, sofar everyone managed.
Did you mean Jim Carrey?
Have you read the end summary of the link you provided: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK221112/ ?
"Studies of groups of people who received polio vaccine during 1955–1963 provide evidence of no increased cancer risk"
Also, have you read the Box 3 link at the end of the article?
I'll leave you with your transistors and tubes now,
Best wishes.
For those that doubt my theory I can support it with hard data! There are no “ifs” in my papers, only “whens”.
I grew up with Mumps, Measles, Chicken Pox, Polio, etc. I don't see them today. My kids didn't suffer from them like I and my friends did. Simple fact. Vaccines work. A lot of the problems people try to associate with vaccines were at one time falsely linked to mercury in tuna fish as well. False science is everywhere.
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Being an old fart I remember seeing the outcomes of these conditions in the 50s and 60s. Kids at school with metal frames on their legs is something you do not forget. Younger people have never seen it but only the benefit of vaccines so maybe become complacent.
Let's stick to the topic and refrain from controversial topics.
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In my youth you saw people here and there that had one small arm/hand. These were (harsh) called "pinguinarms" in my language. The number is officially quite low but I have seen them so much that I doubt the numbers.
Only when I grew up I understood this was caused by Softenon (thalidomide). A well researched and documented mishap by a medicine manufacturer. It is a pity such things happen and the only thing that can be done is testing, testing and testing over a longer period of time beginning in only one area.
Yes back to the main topic. Arthritis and arthrose both suck. I had the injections. 14 Times. Thanks to a steel scaffold pipe sticking out of a wall in a non lighted corridor of a parking garage.
Only when I grew up I understood this was caused by Softenon (thalidomide). A well researched and documented mishap by a medicine manufacturer. It is a pity such things happen and the only thing that can be done is testing, testing and testing over a longer period of time beginning in only one area.
Yes back to the main topic. Arthritis and arthrose both suck. I had the injections. 14 Times. Thanks to a steel scaffold pipe sticking out of a wall in a non lighted corridor of a parking garage.
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Just an update.
My pain has been horrible lately. Trying to do simple tasks around the house like some touch up spackling and putting some shelves up in my wife’s office practically left me crippled.
The damn Ortho and insurance company have been dragging their feet for weeks on getting me a trial cortisone injection. It looks like it may finally happen on December 5th!
In the mean time, I was lucky enough to consult with an Ortho in NY that performed surgery on my wife’s lower back several years ago. A minimally invasive partial disc removal. It completely turned her life around!
I’m happy to say that I found the conversation encouraging on several levels.
I actually felt like I was talking to human being with a sense of empathy!
His philosophy of treatment is more in line with my thinking…much more conservative.
He said that I should proceed with the injection to see what, if any, relief I might experience in the next 3-6 months.
His feeling after reviewing my MRI and XRAY was that the focal point of my problems appears to be at C5-C6 where there is a substantial herniation that is quite pointed and obviously pinching a nerve.
He said that many doctors simply don’t want to deal with half measures…they go in with guns blazing and so recommend fusing multiple vertebrae.
He said that if he HAD to do surgery for me that he would more likely replace the C5-C6 disc with and artificial replacement.
This seems much less aggressive than the previous recommendation if multiple fusing of C5-C6 and C6-C7.
I guess now I have to just grind my teeth and hope I get some relief soon. The damn NSAIDs are still making my gut feel lousy.
My pain has been horrible lately. Trying to do simple tasks around the house like some touch up spackling and putting some shelves up in my wife’s office practically left me crippled.
The damn Ortho and insurance company have been dragging their feet for weeks on getting me a trial cortisone injection. It looks like it may finally happen on December 5th!
In the mean time, I was lucky enough to consult with an Ortho in NY that performed surgery on my wife’s lower back several years ago. A minimally invasive partial disc removal. It completely turned her life around!
I’m happy to say that I found the conversation encouraging on several levels.
I actually felt like I was talking to human being with a sense of empathy!
His philosophy of treatment is more in line with my thinking…much more conservative.
He said that I should proceed with the injection to see what, if any, relief I might experience in the next 3-6 months.
His feeling after reviewing my MRI and XRAY was that the focal point of my problems appears to be at C5-C6 where there is a substantial herniation that is quite pointed and obviously pinching a nerve.
He said that many doctors simply don’t want to deal with half measures…they go in with guns blazing and so recommend fusing multiple vertebrae.
He said that if he HAD to do surgery for me that he would more likely replace the C5-C6 disc with and artificial replacement.
This seems much less aggressive than the previous recommendation if multiple fusing of C5-C6 and C6-C7.
I guess now I have to just grind my teeth and hope I get some relief soon. The damn NSAIDs are still making my gut feel lousy.
Chromenuts: I had neurological issues with my arms and hands and had a massive 9 level cervical fusion. 2 yrs later the only issues I have are minor - I can't hold anything with my chin (as when folding towels), and my head rotation is a little limited. I now have no pain from my upper back and all arm/hand issues are resolved. I had a childhood friend who was a radiologist at Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN. He recommended a top ten surgeon (in the world?) there at Mayo, Dr. Ahmad Nassr. I can't recommend Mayo and Nassr more highly.
Good for you.
But it has happened that the surgeons plan it one way, and when they go in, they may have to do more than one vertebra.
Friend was in for 4, doctor did 7, lumbar, he had a cardiac arrest post surgery, doctor told him you still need 4 cervical to be done...plan for one more surgery.
He got scared, better, but now 79 years old, on crutches.
It was caused by too much driving a van with the front wheel under the seat, I used to tell him to get a decent car, he used it like a truck, ferrying parts for his extruder factory.
Said cannot afford a driver, he had converted the car legally to LPG. I have not scolded him, it was his decision to cause himself injury.
The doctor has since retired, he is an Asia level authority on spine surgery. Name is Dr. Shekhar Bhojraj, based in Mumbai at that time.
At that time, possibly the best spine surgeon in India.
But it has happened that the surgeons plan it one way, and when they go in, they may have to do more than one vertebra.
Friend was in for 4, doctor did 7, lumbar, he had a cardiac arrest post surgery, doctor told him you still need 4 cervical to be done...plan for one more surgery.
He got scared, better, but now 79 years old, on crutches.
It was caused by too much driving a van with the front wheel under the seat, I used to tell him to get a decent car, he used it like a truck, ferrying parts for his extruder factory.
Said cannot afford a driver, he had converted the car legally to LPG. I have not scolded him, it was his decision to cause himself injury.
The doctor has since retired, he is an Asia level authority on spine surgery. Name is Dr. Shekhar Bhojraj, based in Mumbai at that time.
At that time, possibly the best spine surgeon in India.
Supplements helped me get over my type of arthritis joint pain. 3 grams/day of MSM stopped all my joint pain. It stopped my joint inflammation and it was a life saver for me for about six weeks. However, MSM does seem to cause anxiety in some people like myself. I had to stop taking it. Fortunately, there is something called Glucosamine Sulfate which is similar to MSM and it controlled my joint pain at 1.5 grams/day. I took it for years until I noticed that I did not need it anymore. Sulfur which is in these 2 supplements may be the secret ingredient that helps joints heal and stops the inflammation. I just want others who may be taking the immune suppressant drugs that have some bad side effects to know that they may find relief with one of these supplements. Weight lifters take large amounts of MSM for their joint health and it does like 50 good things to a body.
I can't speak about back surgery but I have read where some people said that they did not feel the need for knee surgery when they were taking MSM. It does seem to be a magic joint food.
I can't speak about back surgery but I have read where some people said that they did not feel the need for knee surgery when they were taking MSM. It does seem to be a magic joint food.
I forgot to mention that the surgeon had been telling my friend to hurry up, but he put off the surgery for three to four years citing work pressure, as a result some compressed nerves had atrophy...or dried up, they will never recover.
So the doctor told him I did the best I could, recovery will not be as expected, and that was the case.
He has tried acupuncture, plain and with voltage on the needles, all sorts of alternate therapy, not very successful.
In such cases, urgency is important, do not put it off.
And please take another opinion as well, this surgery is in a very congested area of the body, I would do it once rather than do another surgery for the next vertebra.
So the doctor told him I did the best I could, recovery will not be as expected, and that was the case.
He has tried acupuncture, plain and with voltage on the needles, all sorts of alternate therapy, not very successful.
In such cases, urgency is important, do not put it off.
And please take another opinion as well, this surgery is in a very congested area of the body, I would do it once rather than do another surgery for the next vertebra.
@NareshBrd made a good point that I hadn’t given any update here recently.
I think that’s partially due to my feeling like “Who wants to continue hearing this guy moan about his problems?”
I have to admit that when I am experiencing something like this in my life my focus is really limited on one thing…my pain. That’s not very considerate of those who reached out and shared their thoughts and experiences.
The thread seems to have wandered of topic a bit. I’m not sure that matters so much. We all have our own unique set of problems and circumstances.
The reason I think I started this thread is because when you are experiencing the kind of pain that is associated with a condition like this it can really make you feel completely alone in the world.
So my current status:
My second epidural cortisone injection was on New Years Eve and it made a big difference.
I started physical therapy and am stretching/exercising regularly.
I’m making good strides towards what I hope will be a lasting recovery if I keep at it and don’t do anything stupid. 🤞🤞🤞
I am dealing with a bit of a set back over the last week or so…I came down with some sort of severe Flu.
I call it severe because I’ve never coughed up blood before in my life!
I went to urgent care yesterday and all they could do is tell me the only way to see what’s really going on would be a bronchial endoscopy…which they obviously don’t have the resources to do.
I kind of felt like I was being scrutinized with disbelief concerning my condition.
I was already managing my symptoms as best I could with Flu meds and advil. That always seems to make it appear as if I really wasn’t all that sick.
So the end result was, they gave me a number of prescriptions to act as Band-Aids…antibiotics, steroids and an inhaler…and sent me in my way.
All I can do is hope that it was perhaps caused by all the hard coughing I’ve been doing. Otherwise, I’ll follow up with my GP.
I hope I don’t backslide too much because of inactivity due to being sick.
I think that’s partially due to my feeling like “Who wants to continue hearing this guy moan about his problems?”
I have to admit that when I am experiencing something like this in my life my focus is really limited on one thing…my pain. That’s not very considerate of those who reached out and shared their thoughts and experiences.
The thread seems to have wandered of topic a bit. I’m not sure that matters so much. We all have our own unique set of problems and circumstances.
The reason I think I started this thread is because when you are experiencing the kind of pain that is associated with a condition like this it can really make you feel completely alone in the world.
So my current status:
My second epidural cortisone injection was on New Years Eve and it made a big difference.
I started physical therapy and am stretching/exercising regularly.
I’m making good strides towards what I hope will be a lasting recovery if I keep at it and don’t do anything stupid. 🤞🤞🤞
I am dealing with a bit of a set back over the last week or so…I came down with some sort of severe Flu.
I call it severe because I’ve never coughed up blood before in my life!
I went to urgent care yesterday and all they could do is tell me the only way to see what’s really going on would be a bronchial endoscopy…which they obviously don’t have the resources to do.
I kind of felt like I was being scrutinized with disbelief concerning my condition.
I was already managing my symptoms as best I could with Flu meds and advil. That always seems to make it appear as if I really wasn’t all that sick.
So the end result was, they gave me a number of prescriptions to act as Band-Aids…antibiotics, steroids and an inhaler…and sent me in my way.
All I can do is hope that it was perhaps caused by all the hard coughing I’ve been doing. Otherwise, I’ll follow up with my GP.
I hope I don’t backslide too much because of inactivity due to being sick.
Indeed, I feel you. It is hard but do not give up. The nasty thing is that when you do something that you enjoy the reward is pain either directly after the actions and otherwise the next day.
One has to come to terms with the knowledge that it won’t be solved. Only diminished (when lucky).
Did you already have a Radiosynoviorthese? Applicable in shoulders, knees but not in the back.
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Radiosynoviorthese is not something that was ever discussed with me as an option…in fact, your mention of it is my first exposure to it’s existence.
I will have to read up on it… thank you.
I do hope that the cortisone epidurals, physical therapy and diligence with my stretch/exercise regimen will be a solution if I am cautious about my limits.
I will have to read up on it… thank you.
I do hope that the cortisone epidurals, physical therapy and diligence with my stretch/exercise regimen will be a solution if I am cautious about my limits.
I have had lower back pain for most of my life. MRI shows several compressed and bulging discs. Advil / Ibuprofen doesn't do much for it, but Aleve / Naproxen Sodium does help quite a bit for me. YMMV, but try it if you haven't.
I also realised (way too late) that telling the people around me about pain issues makes them want to help you. They usually try helping by providing advice such as "I know this really good therapist, who helped me with my ankle" or "do more stretching" or "tomato juice will fix it", etc. In the end it's just frustrating to explain to them that I've been there, done that, and it didn't solve the issue.
To make things easier (mostly for myself), I started being much more conservative about speaking to others about my pain. There are only few persons who get it and don't try to recommend (or even push) things on me.