I asked my friendly ai and was told this FWIW...
Let me share some important information about supplement interactions with naproxen:
Several supplements can interact with naproxen and should be used with caution:
1. Most concerning:
2. Should also be used cautiously:
Additionally, it's best to:
Let me share some important information about supplement interactions with naproxen:
Several supplements can interact with naproxen and should be used with caution:
1. Most concerning:
- Ginkgo biloba (increases bleeding risk)
- Fish oil/omega-3 supplements (increases bleeding risk)
- Garlic supplements (increases bleeding risk)
- St. John's Wort (may increase side effects)
2. Should also be used cautiously:
- Vitamin E in high doses (may increase bleeding risk)
- Turmeric/curcumin supplements (may increase bleeding risk)
- Ginger supplements (may increase bleeding risk)
Additionally, it's best to:
- Take supplements at least 2 hours apart from naproxen
- Always inform your healthcare provider about any supplements you're taking
- Be especially careful if you're on blood thinners or have bleeding disorders
Ibupofren is freely avialable at the medic shop : -) . Funny enough I come back from there today and a customer asked some Ibuprofen; makes me laugh...
Some people do not know they are hypertensive or have an hearth problem, and sometimes alas, it is too late cause you took the pill or the quantity not advised as if it was a simple french baguette ! Now when you are nformed as you are and have a doctor, things go better ! 🙂
Anyway, look ar AINS and ASM agencies on french sites if you want local sources you asked.
cheers
Hmmm…yes, time to have another discussion with the doctor. Although I’m not sure I’ll get an informed response regarding the supplements.
As I said, they seem almost dismissive here about over the counter drugs and supplements when you bring them up.
I take Fish Oil, Ginger Root and St John’s Wort pretty much daily for many years. I’ve also taken the Advil almost daily in smaller doses at the same time.
I don’t know what “increased bleeding” means, but no one ever said anything to me about it.
To be honest I’m not liking the Naproxen. It seems to be causing me some constipation. Another problem I DON’T need.
I’m going to try going back to a lower dose of ibuprophen taking the antacid at the same time and hope I can deal with the pain.
As I said, they seem almost dismissive here about over the counter drugs and supplements when you bring them up.
I take Fish Oil, Ginger Root and St John’s Wort pretty much daily for many years. I’ve also taken the Advil almost daily in smaller doses at the same time.
I don’t know what “increased bleeding” means, but no one ever said anything to me about it.
To be honest I’m not liking the Naproxen. It seems to be causing me some constipation. Another problem I DON’T need.
I’m going to try going back to a lower dose of ibuprophen taking the antacid at the same time and hope I can deal with the pain.
Tomato juice is my friend. V-8 is equally effective. All in good time as they say.
Believe it or not, I use lemon juice for my stomach issues including acid reflux. This is actually well known and it works for some but not all. I just found it very counter intuitive in the beginning. You must consider it on a daily basis as a couple days without, its value is lost.
Ibuprofen and other NSAIDS can be hard on the kidneys. They may also increase the chances of certain other problems. However, doctors are trained to keep you alive as long as possible. Quality of life is not so much of an issue for some of them. And there may be sometimes be some tradeoff between probable longevity and daily quality of life. Maybe good to bring up the matter with your doctor in that context to see what he says.
It also appears to be true that there are no good long-term plain relievers. So, doctors tend to be more focused on functionality measures, including daily activities and ability to socialize with family and friends. That sort of thing is considered more of an objective measure of treatment effectiveness rather than subjective pain experience reports. If activating antidepressants get someone up out of bed and moving around, that's considered to be an objective improvement in pain management. Perceived pain is more on the subjective side in that point of view.
BTW, I have been through the mill on this. Have been a guinea pig for trying quite a few things. Did a lot of reading and been to self-management classes. Learned how to meditate, tried yoga when they said to try yoga, blah, blah, blah.
Herniated (collapsed) vertebrae here (not a disc).
Now in retirement I can take care of myself and wow its a lot better. I can sleep in a well-fitting recliner chair which has good lumbar support, or maybe sometimes in a bed but only on my right side. Bottom line is it works for me. Way better in my case if I find out what works and avoid the doctors as much as possible.
It also appears to be true that there are no good long-term plain relievers. So, doctors tend to be more focused on functionality measures, including daily activities and ability to socialize with family and friends. That sort of thing is considered more of an objective measure of treatment effectiveness rather than subjective pain experience reports. If activating antidepressants get someone up out of bed and moving around, that's considered to be an objective improvement in pain management. Perceived pain is more on the subjective side in that point of view.
BTW, I have been through the mill on this. Have been a guinea pig for trying quite a few things. Did a lot of reading and been to self-management classes. Learned how to meditate, tried yoga when they said to try yoga, blah, blah, blah.
Herniated (collapsed) vertebrae here (not a disc).
Now in retirement I can take care of myself and wow its a lot better. I can sleep in a well-fitting recliner chair which has good lumbar support, or maybe sometimes in a bed but only on my right side. Bottom line is it works for me. Way better in my case if I find out what works and avoid the doctors as much as possible.
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@Conrad Hoffman Morphine is pretty effective. When 30 cm of my colon was removed I was (an hour after waking up from the operation) working out naked in front of the hospital window waving to the smoking nurses outside. With a smile on my face.
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If you can, just stir fry shredded ginger in oil or ghee (not animal fat) till it changes color, and add to food, just enough heat for it to give off its aroma, and gently change color.
That will extract the ingredients you need into the oil, and be available.
A tablespoon is about two servings / doses
Also, ask the doctor if the bone density is decent or poor.
One of my father's friends had a lower spine compression issue, bones were not dense enough for fixation, he was put on a Vitamin D course, but died at 89 from other causes before surgery was possible.
And my mother had a spinal kyphoplasty done about ten years back, repairing two thoracic vertebrae, two holes were drilled in each vertebra, and bone cement injected till it came out the other hole (it was a vent really). That restored the broken vertebra to their normal shape, and she had no post operative side effects, IIRC it is an out patient procedure in the USA.
The surgeon took about and hour for the procedure, she was admitted a day earlier for a complete medical exam, and once the reports were good, she was cleared for surgery.
So once again, please ask around, this is the neurosurgeon or spine specialist's alley, not much scope for an orthopedic surgeon.
That will extract the ingredients you need into the oil, and be available.
A tablespoon is about two servings / doses
Also, ask the doctor if the bone density is decent or poor.
One of my father's friends had a lower spine compression issue, bones were not dense enough for fixation, he was put on a Vitamin D course, but died at 89 from other causes before surgery was possible.
And my mother had a spinal kyphoplasty done about ten years back, repairing two thoracic vertebrae, two holes were drilled in each vertebra, and bone cement injected till it came out the other hole (it was a vent really). That restored the broken vertebra to their normal shape, and she had no post operative side effects, IIRC it is an out patient procedure in the USA.
The surgeon took about and hour for the procedure, she was admitted a day earlier for a complete medical exam, and once the reports were good, she was cleared for surgery.
So once again, please ask around, this is the neurosurgeon or spine specialist's alley, not much scope for an orthopedic surgeon.
@chromenuts , sorry to read your story (and now I understand why your Iron Pumpkin has to wait...) - and I would like to welcome you to the Club... yes, I have the same problem with CSDA 🙄 I also have the same symptoms: stabbing pain emanating from the depths of the neck in the neck, in the shoulder, in the chest muscles, numb arms that fall asleep regularly at night, stitches in the neck even when I'm sitting upright that come out of nowhere, so I can't/don't want to move my head a millimeter because of the pain... A small herniated disc only makes it more exciting... For the time being, I'm sticking with conservative therapy with massages and gymnastics (yes, laborious, but it loosens up the muscles and provides blood flow), and "of course" medication, but only if there is no other option... Since I also had a pulmonary embolism in January 2022 (otherwise life would have been boring...), the medication is limited, of course... if it is absolutely necessary, then I take Naproxen... if it's just a headache, then Paracetamol (I'm allergic to Ibuprophen, I once ended up in the emergency room...). Despite all of this, I do sport, I run regularly, between 4 and 16 km, and that gives me strength - a lot of it takes place in the psychological area. I'm now 56, but all the things started when I was 22, I had a herniated disc in the lumbar spine and in the following years I had operations a total of five times and I now have 19 implants in my spine (call me Arnie...🙂 ). But it works because it has to. In the hospital bed with the embolism, I was looking forward to finally finishing X's FAST TL, even though it wasn't even certain that I would leave the hospital alive. I don't allow myself to be limited, even if it hurts - everything that doesn't kill us makes us stronger. I wish you a lot of strength, physically and mentally, and I look forward to your IP, which will hopefully be finished soon 🙂
Cheers
Cheers
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Thanks for your words of encouragement!
Your story parallels mine in many ways and it gives me hope and inspiration to get through this so I can pursue my dreams and desires in life and this hobby that I enjoy so much.
I actually got some organizing done yesterday…still dealing with the mess of moving last Fall.
I’m trying to make it so I can use my garage as needed for speaker projects and the like.
MRI today. We’ll see what they say 🤞
Your story parallels mine in many ways and it gives me hope and inspiration to get through this so I can pursue my dreams and desires in life and this hobby that I enjoy so much.
I actually got some organizing done yesterday…still dealing with the mess of moving last Fall.
I’m trying to make it so I can use my garage as needed for speaker projects and the like.
MRI today. We’ll see what they say 🤞
A few posts here mentioned costs of medical examination and treatment. I consider myself lucky to live in a country that has a well established, mandatory health insurance system. Our system is overly complicated and bloated, but hey, everyone has access to the health system independently of their wealth. Guys and gals, next time you're asked to vote, think about these things!
In India,some government hospitals did not have a billing counter till Covid.
And their prices are low, India's best hospital had a rate of 5,000 Rupees (about $60) for a DBS surgery, only the procedure, in 2019.
Private hospitals start at about $7.500
It is a fraction of what Western countries expect you to pay, best to stay insured.
@chromenuts : Good Luck with your diagnostics, hope they do not insist on surgery.
And their prices are low, India's best hospital had a rate of 5,000 Rupees (about $60) for a DBS surgery, only the procedure, in 2019.
Private hospitals start at about $7.500
It is a fraction of what Western countries expect you to pay, best to stay insured.
@chromenuts : Good Luck with your diagnostics, hope they do not insist on surgery.
Did you already get some feedback, or do you have to wait to see you doctor again?
I’m lucky I made it through the test at all. I had to lie on my back and was grinding my teeth the whole time.
They said the report won’t be ready until at Monday, maybe later.
Follow up with doctor won’t happen until Wednesday.
I got a CD with the imaging on it for myself so I can consult with other physical therapist’ and doctors.
They said the report won’t be ready until at Monday, maybe later.
Follow up with doctor won’t happen until Wednesday.
I got a CD with the imaging on it for myself so I can consult with other physical therapist’ and doctors.
Very sorry to read about your medical problems and hope some relief is in sight.
This is something coming from "outside the square" as they say - quite a few years ago when i was a 'lad' busy doing a lot of cross country running and obstacle course challenges, etc and we all used something called DMSO to treat just about everything from injuries to chronic pain etc but then the FDA (and our own TGA) very successfully had this amazing product "disappear" from sight but it's slowly coming back into view and is touted as very effective for relieving pain involved with a wide variety of problems - you need to search hard to find much information in the current medical press about this, similarly for Ivermectin use to combat Covid, etc)
The surprising thing is the DMSO cream is readily available from Amazon and relatively inexpensive - perhaps this might be of interest ...
I'm nearing my 77th birthday and still playing competitive squash (a lot slower these days!) and anything to ease the common aches/pains is most welcome!
This is something coming from "outside the square" as they say - quite a few years ago when i was a 'lad' busy doing a lot of cross country running and obstacle course challenges, etc and we all used something called DMSO to treat just about everything from injuries to chronic pain etc but then the FDA (and our own TGA) very successfully had this amazing product "disappear" from sight but it's slowly coming back into view and is touted as very effective for relieving pain involved with a wide variety of problems - you need to search hard to find much information in the current medical press about this, similarly for Ivermectin use to combat Covid, etc)
The surprising thing is the DMSO cream is readily available from Amazon and relatively inexpensive - perhaps this might be of interest ...
I'm nearing my 77th birthday and still playing competitive squash (a lot slower these days!) and anything to ease the common aches/pains is most welcome!