Imagine a plane, a treadmill, a X-wing fighter, a wheelbarrow and a cute cat on a runway that .....
Would the cat ......ouch!
Would the cat ......ouch!
Hi Cal,
Neglecting skid marks - okay. My thought is that the wheel and belt remain stationary with respect to each other. Neglecting slight movement due to the servo system having to work with some error and possible under or over damping. 😀
-Chris
Neglecting skid marks - okay. My thought is that the wheel and belt remain stationary with respect to each other. Neglecting slight movement due to the servo system having to work with some error and possible under or over damping. 😀
-Chris

Quasi!
Stop that or the Wookie will be angry. 😀
BTW, just how fast can the cat push the wheelbarrow?
-Chris
Stop that or the Wookie will be angry. 😀
BTW, just how fast can the cat push the wheelbarrow?
-Chris
Cal Weldon said:I just saw a show on Discovery channel. It was about different kinds of bicycles. Included in the group was a treadmill bike. The end of the treadmill was in contact with the rear wheel, no other source of propulsion. It was really neat to see that with the operator walking normally the progress made by the bike compared with walking normally.
Anyone want to guess?
Well it rolls along just fine, but why not just go for a jog?
Someone's actually selling these things:
http://www.bikeforest.com/tread/index.php
But who's buying?
Max
maxro said:
Well it rolls along just fine, but why not just go for a jog?
Someone's actually selling these things:
http://www.bikeforest.com/tread/index.php
But who's buying?
Max
Truly Bizzare!..A bike is a low impact sport better for the ol' joints........jogging is a high impact .........and what is the purpose ?
Amazin' what you can sell these days!
Is the belt matching the speed of his brain?
anatech said:If we put sandpaper on the belt, we can get some useful work done!
-Chris
Nah!...just plug the gear-change into into the mains and put him out of his misery!
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I don't want to upset a wookie, I prefer my arms socketed.
If they're on the belt then it would be a question of how fast can the wheelbarrow pull the cat, and relative to the earth how fast is the conveyor belt travelling if it has to keep up to the plane that is stationary relative to the belt because the wheels have not moved (apart from spinning) and ......did some mention Gin?
If they're on the belt then it would be a question of how fast can the wheelbarrow pull the cat, and relative to the earth how fast is the conveyor belt travelling if it has to keep up to the plane that is stationary relative to the belt because the wheels have not moved (apart from spinning) and ......did some mention Gin?
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anatech said:Hi Cal,
Neglecting skid marks - okay. My thought is that the wheel and belt remain stationary with respect to each other. Neglecting slight movement due to the servo system having to work with some error and possible under or over damping.
So if this is the case than how can the wheel make progress along the belt without the wheel turning faster than the belt? If it lines up everytime, there can be no progress regardless of thrust. That poor plane is still stuck and now needs a new set of wheels.
Hi Cal,
Instantaneous motion and an error (lag of the belt) should be expected. The belt is run by a servo.
Look at it a different way. The wheel is clamped to the free moving belt. The thrust moves the belt along until rotation is reached when the hypergalactic locks on the wheels are magically released.
Either way, it flies. Even in Vancouver. You don't want Jack Layton to be stuck there forever, do you?? 😀
-Chris
Instantaneous motion and an error (lag of the belt) should be expected. The belt is run by a servo.
Look at it a different way. The wheel is clamped to the free moving belt. The thrust moves the belt along until rotation is reached when the hypergalactic locks on the wheels are magically released.
Either way, it flies. Even in Vancouver. You don't want Jack Layton to be stuck there forever, do you?? 😀
-Chris

anatech said:Instantaneous motion and an error (lag of the belt) should be expected.
Poppycock I say. The question introduces no lag in the reaction
Look at it a different way. The wheel is clamped to the free moving belt. The thrust moves the belt along until rotation is reached when the hypergalactic locks on the wheels are magically released.[/B]
Ummm...
Either way, it flies. [/B]
I would love for you to answer the question about how the plane is able to make progress on the belt if the wheels are not turning faster than the belt. I think this is the only stumbling block we have left and it was the eureka moment that finally brought me around.
And please, I am a Jack Layton supporter.
Cal Weldon said:I would love for you to answer the question about how the plane is able to make progress on the belt if the wheels are not turning faster than the belt. I think this is the only stumbling block we have left and it was the eureka moment that finally brought me around.
Remove the wheel/conveyor from your mind. It doesn't matter, and it is simply there to trip you into thinking the motion of the wheels/conveyor has bearing on the plane's movement. The wheels are only there to prop the plane up. The plane doesn't wait for the wheels to turn faster than the conveyor - it's acted upon by forces that aren't conencted to the wheels/conveyor.
The question is will the plane take off. Not whether the wheels will move faster than the conveyor. Whether the latter happens or not is irrelevent, but by connecting the two you hit a mental block that because one can't happen then other can't. That's the beauty of the question.
Vikash said:The question is will the plane take off. Not whether the wheels will move faster than the conveyor. Whether the latter happens or not is irrelevent,
Well the entire question hinges on that premise. If the wheels are not skidding then they are turning at the same speed. If they are not turning at the same speed then we have altered the question.
but by connecting the two you hit a mental block that because one can't happen then other can't. That's the beauty of the question. [/B]
Remember Vikash, I was on your side at one point. The mental block was lifted and that's why I stand where I do. Introducing the thrust of the airplane and believing it can make progress over the belt without the wheels turning faster than the belt is where I believe your guys thinking falls short.
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