Variac said:
I declare this thread out of control!!
Just thought you'd like to know🙄
LOL maybe our plane is going to crash and burn then 😉
Tony.
Thanks for the official notification Mark. Sounds like another thread I know of 😉
No matter how much I throw this thread off topic someone always manages to bring it back to that damned plane again! This could be another western civilisation attack. Anthrax...Pah!
quickshift, did you go to the MPH show? Some nice cars being flung around there 😉
No matter how much I throw this thread off topic someone always manages to bring it back to that damned plane again! This could be another western civilisation attack. Anthrax...Pah!
quickshift, did you go to the MPH show? Some nice cars being flung around there 😉
Nah, I saw a poster for it on a bus after it had finished 🙁 From the looks of the site, I bet it was a great show. I only made it to the bike show at the NEC this year which was surprisingly good considering last years poor effort.
I was on your site earlier trying not to buy more stuff - and succeeding - sorry.. Won't last though... 😀 And, there is a picture of your car with what looks suspiciously like a ferkin massive bottle of nitrous in the boot - you nutter 😀
I was on your site earlier trying not to buy more stuff - and succeeding - sorry.. Won't last though... 😀 And, there is a picture of your car with what looks suspiciously like a ferkin massive bottle of nitrous in the boot - you nutter 😀
Yeah it is. But for the record I'm very embarassed about it. And the neons. And the flaming exhaust thingy. The previous owner was a mad kid with a big credit card limit. The NoS is only for the steam arches and not fed into the engine. I haven't seen any of this stuff work though (except the neons).
I'd recommend seeing the MPH show at least once. The show part of it (approx 75 mins) is quite good. Lots of cars skidding around right in front of you 😀
I'd recommend seeing the MPH show at least once. The show part of it (approx 75 mins) is quite good. Lots of cars skidding around right in front of you 😀
Hi Mark,
I guess you have a choice then. We can bo out of control here .... or somewhere else
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BTW Tony,
That tethered airplane must be getting low on fuel by now. Do you think it'll leave a skid mark? ( I hope the roller skate dude got off first!)
MPH?? I was I had a picture of my '67 Olds Cutlass to show you guys. 450BHP out of a 327 -> 331 CID. 12.5:1 compression. Damn scary to drive, it was a sleeper too. It did mid 12's on the 1/4 mi. Auto slammed into 2nd at 70MPH and rubber city! Both sides. I was nutts. NO2 not required. I beat a couple stunned bikers.
-Chris
I guess you have a choice then. We can bo out of control here .... or somewhere else
.BTW Tony,
That tethered airplane must be getting low on fuel by now. Do you think it'll leave a skid mark? ( I hope the roller skate dude got off first!)
MPH?? I was I had a picture of my '67 Olds Cutlass to show you guys. 450BHP out of a 327 -> 331 CID. 12.5:1 compression. Damn scary to drive, it was a sleeper too. It did mid 12's on the 1/4 mi. Auto slammed into 2nd at 70MPH and rubber city! Both sides. I was nutts. NO2 not required. I beat a couple stunned bikers.
-Chris
wintermute said:
Not likely if it's standing still on the belt as it has no way of making progress without the wheels turning faster than the belt. I don't see how we can make the point of reference anything other than the ground as the plane has to fly over it to takeoff.
Oh man, I love disturbing the **** first thing in the morning.
Vikash said:
Well, that is the thread starter after all. If you want to flex your auto muscles, start a new thread.
Vikash said:
Ouch...
Still, it's not like you have to have the stuff switched on or vent gas at innocent passers by. 🙂 I can't understand how the exhaust flame throwers are road legal!
Shame you can't just plumb the nitrous into the intakes.
The driving show bit sounds great 😀 I'll be there next year.
anatech said:
Well, if its still on the ground, you can just roll a fuel truck right up to it. Just make sure none of the ground crew step on the belt.
Actually, new thought... If the belt is going infinately fast, that means that it will have infinite mass, and the entire universe will collapse inwards towards it. Hmm, I'd better stop playing with my roll of tape, or the entire universe could undergo a complete and utter existance failure....
hmmmm I can see it now, some alien species saying hey there is a new black hole where the milky way used to be... what was that last transmission we saw, something about a plane on a conveyor belt......
and for you speed freaks out there, the fastest I have been on the ground is 431Km/h 😀 It was in march this year on the maglev train in Shanghai. short video (5.2MB) available here ---> http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~tonywww/maglev/
I have a longer one but it is substantially bigger and would use a large proportion of my web quota 😉
Tony.
and for you speed freaks out there, the fastest I have been on the ground is 431Km/h 😀 It was in march this year on the maglev train in Shanghai. short video (5.2MB) available here ---> http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~tonywww/maglev/
I have a longer one but it is substantially bigger and would use a large proportion of my web quota 😉
Tony.
Ok found the pics of your car .... that's one sweet ride....
Any pics / vids of the exhaust in action?
Any pics / vids of the exhaust in action?
Netlist said:
How do you figure that?!?!?! As soon as it "left" the ground, it would be traveling at 0mph relative to you... it would be just flying there above the treadmill???? Think about that.
It seems that the plane would move forward, but the conveyor would turn the wheels twice as fast. So no change in operation as long as the wheel bearings and tires didn't explode from too much angular velocity. Ground steering would be tricky though.
This is like asking if a plane is stationary and wind blew perfectly straight on front at the speed needed for take off, would it lift and fly from a stationary position? (not Harrier type)
This is like asking if a plane is stationary and wind blew perfectly straight on front at the speed needed for take off, would it lift and fly from a stationary position? (not Harrier type)
Hi CBS240,
The answer to your question is undoubtedly yes.
Similar to wind-tunnel testing, which I have referred to before in this thread.
All it needs for a plane to rise off the ground is having sufficient air passing across the wings, however this caused, and when the 'lift' resulting from this exceeds the gravitational pull, up it will go, regardless of the plane's relationship to the ground.
No linear movement relative to the ground is needed, it is the movement of the surrounding air relative to the plane that matters here.
This is the basic principle of flight, where fixed wing aircraft are concerned.
Think about kids' kites, too, when you can run along to get them airborne, or if the headwind is strong enough, you can stand still, or even walk backwards sometimes, and the kite stays up.
The answer to your question is undoubtedly yes.
Similar to wind-tunnel testing, which I have referred to before in this thread.
All it needs for a plane to rise off the ground is having sufficient air passing across the wings, however this caused, and when the 'lift' resulting from this exceeds the gravitational pull, up it will go, regardless of the plane's relationship to the ground.
No linear movement relative to the ground is needed, it is the movement of the surrounding air relative to the plane that matters here.
This is the basic principle of flight, where fixed wing aircraft are concerned.
Think about kids' kites, too, when you can run along to get them airborne, or if the headwind is strong enough, you can stand still, or even walk backwards sometimes, and the kite stays up.
it will fly, but those wheels will be STRESSED... those jet engines power teh plane, not the wheels, so the plane would move, but that conveyer belt would make the wheels spin REALY fast in the process.
wait... *edit* i jsut contradicted myself and the question too, it wouldn't move
wait... *edit* i jsut contradicted myself and the question too, it wouldn't move
It will fly, because the plane is moved forward only by the thrust of the engine (propeller or jet engine).
Usually threre are no driven wheels on airplanes.
Due to the opposite moving directions the belt tries to compensate the movements of the wheels and is moving in the direction the airplane moves (with same ground speed).
The aircraft will lift off with stationary and absolutely stressless wheels!
Maybe there are some grund effects between plane and belt.
Onra
Usually threre are no driven wheels on airplanes.
Due to the opposite moving directions the belt tries to compensate the movements of the wheels and is moving in the direction the airplane moves (with same ground speed).
The aircraft will lift off with stationary and absolutely stressless wheels!
Maybe there are some grund effects between plane and belt.
Onra
Hi Onra,
Yes, that is what I think will happen. The belt will move at increasing speed to oppose the rotation of the wheels. The plane accelerates normally with respect to the ground, the wheels are stationary with respect to the belt. The plane takes off.
Here we go again! 😱
-Chris
Yes, that is what I think will happen. The belt will move at increasing speed to oppose the rotation of the wheels. The plane accelerates normally with respect to the ground, the wheels are stationary with respect to the belt. The plane takes off.
Here we go again! 😱
-Chris
Onra said:
If the wheels aren't turning neither is the belt. Onra, we realize the wheels are simply supporting the plane and they are independant of the engine thrust but if the planes wheels which are in contact with the belt have made any progress along the belt it means that the wheels have somehow managed to move faster than the belt. Since we know the belt is reactionary and cannot move faster or slower than the wheels, the plane remains stationary regardless of thrust.
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