Okay.
Evenharmonics sells ABX systems, room and speaker digital EQ systems, does audio system consulting, and also has a room remodeling audio business. He keeps them all under different secret-to-us business names so he can take every sucker he finds for all the dirty loot he can get.
Other than that, he seems like nice enough fellow when he watches his manners.
Evenharmonics sells ABX systems, room and speaker digital EQ systems, does audio system consulting, and also has a room remodeling audio business. He keeps them all under different secret-to-us business names so he can take every sucker he finds for all the dirty loot he can get.
Other than that, he seems like nice enough fellow when he watches his manners.
Yes, very easy to believe since up until very recently I didn't think decent interconnection cables could sound different from each other. I told the story before in blowtorch and another thread already. Very briefly, it started when Jam came by with some XLR cables and said to try them for AK4499. It was down for upgrades at the time, so I said I would try the cables when I got a chance. I said to Jam, what if I don't hear any difference? He said, then you need to get your ears checked. HaHa -NOT, I thought. I wrote up what happened in ES9038Q2M thread now that I think about it. Of course, our friend who runs all the awful audio businesses, Evenharmonics, showed up to troll (another of his specialties). Bottom line, its easy to show good cables sound different whether or not you listen to Jam's cables at all. It could turn out it takes a pretty clean, no-ground-problem, low-distortion system to hear it best. Don't know. Haven't tried it with a whole lot of variety, just two different systems here which are both very good.
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Okay, you guys need to get a room... have your little wiggy wagging contest and come back when you're done. I'm not going to argue personalities and I'm not about to get in the middle of two guys who do.Evenharmonics said:
I'm thinking pretty much everyone here as a vested interest in audio, including me. I put together soudbar killers for friends and friends of friends, set up HTPC systems and occasionally do service calls on home theatre systems... and I don't do them for free.
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Do you have any idea how many thousands of repairs an average technician does in a 30 year career? Yet based on a sample size of 2 systems, both of which you own, you feel qualified to tell me you're smarter than me and contradict both science and my experience... Nope, sorry, not buying it.
Changing my mind is going to take some pretty convincing proof... and so far, I've never met any subjectivist audiophile (amateur or pro) who can give even the first shred of believable evidence.
I'm no subjectivist, I don't take extreme sides. Do believe in value of measurements (just don't believe we don't typically measure all we could).
How about if I claimed that someone could hear the difference between two otherwise identical preamps, only one with an HF roll off at 100kHz, and the other one a higher roll off?
I expose shills when I see them and I've called out a whole bunch of them over the years. Markw4 happens to be the latest flare up so I send out warnings to unsuspecting readers. Shills do fight back so it may look like there's something between Markw4 and I but there isn't as shown in the following quote.
Claim it all you want... but it is beyond unlikely anyone could hear that unless they're a vampire bat.
Seriously... it's this kind of bullsmut that I find so troubling. People claiming to hear fractional DB differences, hearing tiny bits of distortion, able to discern 1hz differences in frequency ... it just doesn't happen and it is scientifically demonstrable.
I once listened to an extremely detailed dissertation about the effect of SWR on speaker wires. Later the same crew gave a long spiel about high frequency roll off in RCA cables... After the speech I went over and asked the first guy how long a half wavelength is in a speaker wire at 1000hz. I asked the other guy what the lowest frequency the roll off began at in microphone cables... neither could give an answer.
At 1000hz the first resonant length that can produce standing waves is 300 kilometers (186 miles). In cheap microphone cable the first attenuated frequency is above 500khz. In fact most standard RCA cables will adequately pass an SD video signal... audio is easy. Both dissertations were pure BS.
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Fear not ... it's likely to happen again.
Seriously... the sheer lunacy of these guys claims should put them right out of business... but the Golden Ears just lap it up.
Haha! You are insulting some of the firmest objectivists in this forum. Hilarious!
Very interesting. Too bad he doesn't sell PCBs for it, I would love to build a testset.
I think the cable lifters should be made of Claxton Fruit Cake.
Claxton Fruit Cake
I'm actually impressed we're already in page eight 😀
I sketched up some preliminary ideas, and like the idea so far. I'll try to post some stuff tomorrow, left my notebook at work 🙁
Honestly I would love to have a day with his null tester. He's generally full of interesting ideas. Bit of a controversial fellow though 🙄
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If you have a two channel oscilloscope you can do a null test with it.
Connect the audio source and one end of the wire under test to channel 1
Connect the other end of the wire to channel 2.
Now invert channel 2 and Add... this effectively subtracts channel 2 from channel 1 and the only thing left will be the difference between the two ends of the wire.
Or if you feel like doing a little bit of building, the thumbnail is a quick lashup of a very basic Null Tester with gain. Of course you may need to do some tweaking and add a means to level match the signals...
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