So, you are suggesting that after nearly 40 years as an audio hobbyist and more than 30 years as a service technician my imagination has run away with me?
Hooookaaaaayyyy...
I dunno... I always thought it was about getting the signal from one device to another...
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The problem with that approach is that people are going to hear what you tell them to hear...
"Now listen to how the soundstage opens up and the air is far more transparent"...
To NOT hear that is now a failure and most people simply hate to fail.
Exactly ... it takes time for confirmation bias to wear off... and it always does, sending the guy back out to find a new improvement.
ROFL ... Gotta love Ethan Winer.
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🙂 It's nice to see a newcomer suss out Mark so quickly and honestly, like the child in the story of The Emperor's New Clothes. 😉
We should look carefully at sound quality of systems powered with 120 V 60 Hz versus 230V 50 Hz.
And appropriate mains cables.
And appropriate mains cables.
All of this talk about cable-lifters and as if by magic- at the top of the page:
An Ad by “Synergistic Research”... ;-P
An Ad by “Synergistic Research”... ;-P
Yes. It doesn't matter what experience you have if you haven't learned you can still be wrong sometimes.
My point precisely, get the signal from one device to another with minimal degradation. That's why I use the cables I do.
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Not true. Listening to be sure of the tiniest differences accurately can take a few days. Definitely more than one listening session. Lots of practice helps. For an unskilled listener using poor quality reproduction equipment it might take weeks, months, possibly never hear a difference.
Some differences are obvious enough that they are very quickly recognizable.
Doesn't matter. Your simplified rules of thumb don't serve well as a summary of any actual science. 🙄
Right back atcha Mark...
And, the sad truth is that you are wrong about this. I've done at least a dozen repair calls on high end systems with real strange problems and allmost every case it's these freaking exotic wires causing the trouble. In one case, it was RCA cables so heavy they were breaking the female sides off the back of the equipment.
No sir, I've done the lab time and you're not going to tell me you can tune up a system with wire...
especially when you've already told me that your magic XLR cable doesn't work as well as a standard one likely would.
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Douglas,
You don't know what you are talking about in this case. I am already very well aware of all the audiophiles using expensive cables that are hurting their sound. Also, quite aware that going back to the original cables will substantially restore sound quality. Why are you so confident you are the only person who could possibly know such a thing and have such experience?
In fact I know more than you do, and have longer and more impressive experience than you do. Will it convince you that you might be wrong if I rattle it off? If not, then why do think I should be impressed by your experience?
That's fair, taken at face value. However, I have already said in another thread that after we have a few diyaudio visitors come through here I could be agreeable to audio recordings. I think they would be more useful than FFTs when talking about perceptual objectionableness of particular audible artifacts (and FFTs are not useful anyway for showing small yet objectionable linear distortion). As I tried to explain before, I have serious doubts people would believe there could be such clearly audible differences without what might be called pathological causation. Perhaps things will work out that someday billshurv will visit. I would like to have visitors sooner rather than later, but people on the forum don't seem to have much interest even if they do live within driving distance.
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Douglas, belated welcome to DIY Audio Forum. Since you are relatively new here, let me give you a bit of history on Markw4. He has an affiliation with audio business run by a forum member named jam so Markw4 shills for jam's company which sells DACs and cables just to name couple. Once you put that aspect into the equation, it will become clear why he posts what he posts. 😉
I would if I could, I think it'd be interesting. As you know I don't deny what people say they hear, so many variables. I do think though that:
certainly for most people due again to all the variables, otherwise it's of academic interest only I think, not why most people would be interested.
I learn more from discussions about speaker directivity than that of cables 🙂
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