Broadcast RIAA Blues

The story goes that Stereophile always uses a 600 ohm resistive source for MM phono amplifier noise measurements and that there is even a Japanese standard prescribing the use of a 600 ohm resistive source. That means that when you design a MM amplifier with a bipolar input stage and you want it to work optimally in real life as well as in measurements, you should really put a switch on it to switch between about 50 uA of input stage collector current for normal use and about 1 mA for Stereophile or Japanese measurements (*) :eek:

(*): assuming A-weighting, an hFE of about 600 and counting on a typical cartridge inductance of about 500 mH
 
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As I'm sure you know, there is a similar issue when you want to measure the noise level or the sensitivity of a radio: RF equipment invariably has a 50 ohm output impedance while, for example, a passive whip antenna used for medium wave reception isn't even close to 50 ohm. The solution is simple: a dummy antenna, a simple, standardized passive circuit that when connected to a 50 ohm source has an output impedance that is close to that of the real antenna. For passive whip antennas used for AM car radio, the dummy consists of a termination resistor and a 15 pF-60 pF capacitive voltage divider, 15 pF representing the whip antenna and 60 pF the antenna cable.

Similarly, for MM phono amplifiers, the standardization organisations should have defined a dummy cartridge with a big inductance.
 
All this nattering about other options for the preamp will fall on deaf ears, as my boards are already finished and stuffed, and should handily out-do any 2-transistor solution, "revered" or no.... The noise observations that originally sparked this thread were made with cartridge in place, which is really how it needs to be done for a practical setup.
 
Here's the gain-phase scan from one board, which combines 2 channels of RIAA preamp plus balanceced to unbalanced conversion. The scan is from an unbalanced output used to power an external mixer from its line input.
 

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