Thank you, but sometimes the implementation of the councils leads to losses. Causes of losses are quite clear.As before I'm sure this is YOUR amplifier there is no evidence that you have bothered to go through the effort to enter and analyze any alternative solution presented by others. In the spirit of teaching others what can be done I have decided to do it for you.
Thank you Scott.
Thanks guys I think I'm set now. Lots of down time this weekend to enter my stuff into LTSPICE from our in house simulator (that I can't share).
Scott I want to study you circuit from post 7932. You mentioned placing in the public domain. Was there a thread for this and other mentioned works on this forum?
If so what the name of the tread.
If so what the name of the tread.
If someone wants to play with the amp from post http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/soli...lls-power-amplifier-book-799.html#post4935057 here is LTspice .asc file and the models file.
Damir
Damir
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Scott I want to study you circuit from post 7932. You mentioned placing in the public domain. Was there a thread for this and other mentioned works on this forum?
If so what the name of the tread.
It's close to the same circuit he posted here he is just killing some more gain in the diff "VAS" and using some feedforward from the front to the buffer.
S
Dear Bob,I have finally gotten around to cleaning up the LTspice file and posting the circuit simulation file for the DH220C.
Cheers,
Bob
happy new year to you and all others too!
Many thanks for providing us the updated schematic and simulation file! Would it be possible for you to post the needed (and maybe updated?) include files too?
Code:
.include Cordell Models.txt
.include LMOSFETs Ks.txt
.include JFET models.txt
Scott I want to study you circuit from post 7932. You mentioned placing in the public domain. Was there a thread for this and other mentioned works on this forum?
If so what the name of the tread.
The thread is old it will take some hunting, and no there is no feedforward and the Aol >1e6. Remember it was built and scope photos were posted here.
The thread is old it will take some hunting, and no there is no feedforward and the Aol >1e6. Remember it was built and scope photos were posted here.
That's okay. sf1412 linked to it for me.
Thanks, sf1412
I found this paper on transistor modeling for measuring and extracting the spice parameters.
Can some of the spice gurus here could check it over for suggestibility.
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=...VZCWjbKV1wEnoA&bvm=bv.142059868,d.cGc&cad=rja
Can some of the spice gurus here could check it over for suggestibility.
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=...VZCWjbKV1wEnoA&bvm=bv.142059868,d.cGc&cad=rja
Dear Bob,
happy new year to you and all others too!
Many thanks for providing us the updated schematic and simulation file! Would it be possible for you to post the needed (and maybe updated?) include files too?
BR, ToniCode:.include Cordell Models.txt .include LMOSFETs Ks.txt .include JFET models.txt
Here are the include files.
Cheers,
Bob
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Bob I can't save the file to disk from LTspice.
Win says it is write protected.
I didn't know they were write protected. I tried downloading the to disk and it worked for me. I just clicked on the file, clicked on "show in folder", then copied it from the download folder to my destination folder and opened it in that folder.
Let me know if this does not work for you.
Cheers,
Bob
I didn't know they were write protected. I tried downloading the to disk and it worked for me. I just clicked on the file, clicked on "show in folder", then copied it from the download folder to my destination folder and opened it in that folder.
Let me know if this does not work for you.
Cheers,
Bob
It's okay Bob. I found a way around it.
It's just win10's overly protected system.
That's okay. sf1412 linked to it for me.
Thanks, sf1412
Good, so I don't have to repeat myself. If you search the web for an OPA627 schematic there is a similar second stage and I was fooling around with making it fully complementary. I describe what is going on in the first post, all 4 Vas transistors are bootstrapped to the output so the DC errors and the effect of Cob become common mode and do not appear in the signal path. In that example I simply used am IC buffer as an output stage. The resistors are doing the same thing as in Bob's circuit, preventing the voltages from being undefined in the presence of inevitable device offsets. In the picture I think the Aol was about 1e7 with the 2K resistors.
Now to Muntz up Bob's circuit. 😀
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Good, so I don't have to repeat myself. If you search the web for an OPA627 schematic there is a similar second stage and I was fooling around with making it fully complementary. I describe what is going on in the first post, all 4 Vas transistors are bootstrapped to the output so the DC errors and the effect of Cob become common mode and do not appear in the signal path. In that example I simply used am IC buffer as an output stage. The resistors are doing the same thing as in Bob's circuit, preventing the voltages from being undefined in the presence of inevitable device offsets. In the picture I think the Aol was about 1e7 with the 2K resistors.
Now to Muntz up Bob's circuit. 😀
No need to repeat. Just point.
I wonder the same! I've built a few sub circuits that scott had shown and they've worked like magic and that's great learning for me even after spending almost 30 years in telecom electronics!
(thanks Scott!)
(thanks Scott!)
It is beyond me why someone would continue to argue with two or more master electrical engineers who have some 40 years of experience behind them.
But it does seem that someone shows up ever few month to do so.
It is beyond me why someone would continue to argue with two or more master electrical engineers who have some 40 years of experience behind them.
But it does seem that someone shows up ever few month to do so.
I think it is part of the language barrier. I told him twice that 'model' and 'circuit' are two different things, but he keeps using 'model' for what looks like the complete circuit. Must be the Google translator.
Jan
Jean, thanks for the tip. We, in Russia, called the model as a line with parameters of the transistor, and schematics of the product. I find it hard to break the habit.I think it is part of the language barrier. I told him twice that 'model' and 'circuit' are two different things, but he keeps using 'model' for what looks like the complete circuit. Must be the Google translator.
Jan
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