Hello, and Good morning everyone.
Well, today I would like to ask the other tinker men & women here what do you use to Stream your Bluetooth Audio from your phone or tablet to your Amplifier?
I have looked a a few items and I found out my phone supports APTx, (Redmi-9c) and some other things like ACC etc.
I have to admit, I have spoiled myself getting the signal from my Asus Chromebook Flip direct to the Amp in my car, and BOY it sounds good!
I use Spotify and Amazon HD (doing testing on Amazon HD) and can control Spotify, but not the Amazon App on the chromebook. Weird.
So last night I broke out my USB DAC (Topping Clone) and tried it out. Hooked up the USB to the Redmi 9c, no dice. Then tried my chromebook. WORKS PERFECT! SO on to do testing.
Its been the most quiet and noise free of all of them. With the Chromebooks audio output sounding a bit more airy, and musical, but the topping is dead nuts silent. No hiss, no noise. Its just the music and nothing BUT the music.
It seems it would work better with another amp as the amp I am using is more suited to the lower voltage level of my chromebook and the Android Chinese audio touchscreen i have that can't even DRIVE the thing! LOL.
Anyways, also tried with my Samsung Tab PROs (SM-320) Wonderful! Works great! Running it with the USB power supply and Samsung OTG Adapter. Getting 48 Khz PCM out of it. So far very impressed. Sounds better IMO then from the chromebook with the USB DAC.
So I was wondering. What devices have you used that support APTX HD and other Bluetooth protocols that you use?
I'm tempted to just keep a Tablet in the car, or an extra Chromebook and just keep doing it that way. (With HIGH quality cables of course!)
I like the fact that with the tablet? I can even stream things to it as I have the app so I can do that as a Media Extender.
Latter on today, I am going to see if the chromebook does anything more then 44.1 I also have a HDMI Output on both the chromebook and the Asus tablet. So I can use that as well in a pinch.
But so far, this has been the best method for me to actully get the BEST audio I can out of streaming services to my amps in the car.
For Convenience, I would LIKE to ask what do you guys use as a Bluetooth receiver? I have seen a few bargins out there, and wanted to try them out since amazon has a return policy, I might try a few and see if I want to go with the more expensive 50-80 dollar models and see how they compare with the 10-$40 range of stuff.
I was just going to throw in a pioneer deck. But all of them only support SBC audio. Its not bad. But if I am already paying good money for the good quality stuff? Why limit yourself? Streaming vs the USB imput, USB Wins hands down.
But I have to say, when I did it directly from my Chromebooks audio output? Selected HD Audio, and ran it? IMPRESSIVE! from Amazon Music app. But it still showed 44.1. Vs 48 on the Samsung Tablet. I tired a few tracks but no change.
Amazon Music however is not available for my tablet. Just spotify, No loss here. On trial anyways and testing.
Its just a shame to me that Pioneers Mechless units do not support APTX, but much of their Home audio stuff does. Kind of weird. But I'm sure there is a reason.
So with your devices that you use, have you been able to hear a large difference? I know I got some that were only MONO output. But those were impulse cheap buys anyways. I was looking at some of these units on Amazon and Ebay. And was just going to order a few.
I already tried AMazon Auto, and IT WAS A MAJOR DISAPPOINTMENT!
It was even worse then my Android car touch screen for noise! Would have been the PERFECT thing if it did not have so much noise and THD and other crap you can hear via the AUX JACK. And I tried EVERYTHING to get rid of it.
It even came through with headphones. Even a USB Power supply ran on batteries. Still. Same noise. And Only when playing audio. It even sounded destroyed at LOW volumes. Crazy! Like the unit was on OVERDRIVE and came with a FUZZ pedal in the small box!
I would like to try out your Budget recommendations if you have any.
This is just for testing. If I want to get serious? Then I just load up a Linux box to put in the car and just go from there. Nothng is better then a CAR PC IMO for all that you can do and the S.Q. that you can get. (DSP, X/over's etc, outboard DAC's if needed etc.
In the future, I am planning to use a NanoDigi with 8 digital outputs but right now, it seems I am leading towards a full Car PC with DSP software and Asus SONAR sound card to get the job done in the car all with a floating DC Power bus.
(pics on what I have an what I did coming up in next post. Along with Items I am thinking about trying out. )
BRB.
Well, today I would like to ask the other tinker men & women here what do you use to Stream your Bluetooth Audio from your phone or tablet to your Amplifier?
I have looked a a few items and I found out my phone supports APTx, (Redmi-9c) and some other things like ACC etc.
I have to admit, I have spoiled myself getting the signal from my Asus Chromebook Flip direct to the Amp in my car, and BOY it sounds good!
I use Spotify and Amazon HD (doing testing on Amazon HD) and can control Spotify, but not the Amazon App on the chromebook. Weird.
So last night I broke out my USB DAC (Topping Clone) and tried it out. Hooked up the USB to the Redmi 9c, no dice. Then tried my chromebook. WORKS PERFECT! SO on to do testing.
Its been the most quiet and noise free of all of them. With the Chromebooks audio output sounding a bit more airy, and musical, but the topping is dead nuts silent. No hiss, no noise. Its just the music and nothing BUT the music.
It seems it would work better with another amp as the amp I am using is more suited to the lower voltage level of my chromebook and the Android Chinese audio touchscreen i have that can't even DRIVE the thing! LOL.
Anyways, also tried with my Samsung Tab PROs (SM-320) Wonderful! Works great! Running it with the USB power supply and Samsung OTG Adapter. Getting 48 Khz PCM out of it. So far very impressed. Sounds better IMO then from the chromebook with the USB DAC.
So I was wondering. What devices have you used that support APTX HD and other Bluetooth protocols that you use?
I'm tempted to just keep a Tablet in the car, or an extra Chromebook and just keep doing it that way. (With HIGH quality cables of course!)
I like the fact that with the tablet? I can even stream things to it as I have the app so I can do that as a Media Extender.
Latter on today, I am going to see if the chromebook does anything more then 44.1 I also have a HDMI Output on both the chromebook and the Asus tablet. So I can use that as well in a pinch.
But so far, this has been the best method for me to actully get the BEST audio I can out of streaming services to my amps in the car.
For Convenience, I would LIKE to ask what do you guys use as a Bluetooth receiver? I have seen a few bargins out there, and wanted to try them out since amazon has a return policy, I might try a few and see if I want to go with the more expensive 50-80 dollar models and see how they compare with the 10-$40 range of stuff.
I was just going to throw in a pioneer deck. But all of them only support SBC audio. Its not bad. But if I am already paying good money for the good quality stuff? Why limit yourself? Streaming vs the USB imput, USB Wins hands down.
But I have to say, when I did it directly from my Chromebooks audio output? Selected HD Audio, and ran it? IMPRESSIVE! from Amazon Music app. But it still showed 44.1. Vs 48 on the Samsung Tablet. I tired a few tracks but no change.
Amazon Music however is not available for my tablet. Just spotify, No loss here. On trial anyways and testing.
Its just a shame to me that Pioneers Mechless units do not support APTX, but much of their Home audio stuff does. Kind of weird. But I'm sure there is a reason.
So with your devices that you use, have you been able to hear a large difference? I know I got some that were only MONO output. But those were impulse cheap buys anyways. I was looking at some of these units on Amazon and Ebay. And was just going to order a few.
I already tried AMazon Auto, and IT WAS A MAJOR DISAPPOINTMENT!
It was even worse then my Android car touch screen for noise! Would have been the PERFECT thing if it did not have so much noise and THD and other crap you can hear via the AUX JACK. And I tried EVERYTHING to get rid of it.
It even came through with headphones. Even a USB Power supply ran on batteries. Still. Same noise. And Only when playing audio. It even sounded destroyed at LOW volumes. Crazy! Like the unit was on OVERDRIVE and came with a FUZZ pedal in the small box!
I would like to try out your Budget recommendations if you have any.
This is just for testing. If I want to get serious? Then I just load up a Linux box to put in the car and just go from there. Nothng is better then a CAR PC IMO for all that you can do and the S.Q. that you can get. (DSP, X/over's etc, outboard DAC's if needed etc.
In the future, I am planning to use a NanoDigi with 8 digital outputs but right now, it seems I am leading towards a full Car PC with DSP software and Asus SONAR sound card to get the job done in the car all with a floating DC Power bus.
(pics on what I have an what I did coming up in next post. Along with Items I am thinking about trying out. )
BRB.
Photos of setup of the Ampire (Topping CLone USB Dac)
This is the Power supply I am using to run the Tablet and the Power Hungry Topping Dac.
SM 320 Samsung TabPro. The DAC just worked plug & Play!
Amazon DAC AMPIRE unit. Hey, it was Open Box, it was less then $30 bucks, I got it OKAY! LOL! Really the first time I am really using it. Been in the box for over a year.
TEMP SET UP! TEMP! I am TESTING!
I tried this.. OHHH GOOOOD GOOAWWWDD!!
WHO LET THIS THING SLIP BY Q.C.>>>????
So as of now, I think I got the Ampire (Topping CLone it seems) Working VERY WELL!
No drops or anything with the Samsung OTG Adaptor and Powered by the USB power brick.
Thinking right now to just run the Tablet Headless. So More USB Ports and some more cabling to do. But I think at this point? Man, I'm just about ready to throw in something active, but I am really enjoying the set up right now. Still? It would be nice to just find a Simple Bluetooth Dac until I really get all serious and drop the Dynaudio 3 inch mids and and match it with some G & R tweeters.
Its pretty loud. Sounds like a Live band when I park out in the Industrial area, and doing the sweeps from the DAC, Audio Tool can see all the frequencies all the way to 19 Khz. Really cool! I can BARELY hear them. But whatever.
SO I hope that helps get some input from the Community here. THank you!
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This is the Power supply I am using to run the Tablet and the Power Hungry Topping Dac.
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
SM 320 Samsung TabPro. The DAC just worked plug & Play!
Amazon DAC AMPIRE unit. Hey, it was Open Box, it was less then $30 bucks, I got it OKAY! LOL! Really the first time I am really using it. Been in the box for over a year.
TEMP SET UP! TEMP! I am TESTING!
I tried this.. OHHH GOOOOD GOOAWWWDD!!
WHO LET THIS THING SLIP BY Q.C.>>>????
So as of now, I think I got the Ampire (Topping CLone it seems) Working VERY WELL!
No drops or anything with the Samsung OTG Adaptor and Powered by the USB power brick.
Thinking right now to just run the Tablet Headless. So More USB Ports and some more cabling to do. But I think at this point? Man, I'm just about ready to throw in something active, but I am really enjoying the set up right now. Still? It would be nice to just find a Simple Bluetooth Dac until I really get all serious and drop the Dynaudio 3 inch mids and and match it with some G & R tweeters.
Its pretty loud. Sounds like a Live band when I park out in the Industrial area, and doing the sweeps from the DAC, Audio Tool can see all the frequencies all the way to 19 Khz. Really cool! I can BARELY hear them. But whatever.
SO I hope that helps get some input from the Community here. THank you!
$1.88!!!
DEAR GOD MAN! That is CHEAPER then a CHEESBURGER in the STATES!
Man, I love india. So many good deals there.
I was looking at smaller boxes like these:
Link if hotlink does not work
https://www.amazon.com/Wixine-Universal-Wireless-Bluetooth-Adapter/dp/B08GF5K6TF
UPDATE:
After being able to hear the dynamic range of the Cheap dac, I don't think I can go back..
sure the set up is janky, but boy does it sound good.
$5.00
Includes Amplifier...with remote, 20 watts per channel, though I would not expect more than 10.
Enough in a closed car.
More expensive versions up to $15 or so.
Frankly, CD are no longer used, and this even has aux in in front. And can use memory cards and sticks.
Includes Amplifier...with remote, 20 watts per channel, though I would not expect more than 10.
Enough in a closed car.
More expensive versions up to $15 or so.
Frankly, CD are no longer used, and this even has aux in in front. And can use memory cards and sticks.
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